Genealogy Chat

Hi,I know there are Stretton Brothers plumbers in Leicester.One is called Ken Stretton.

Hope it helps
Carol

Ive started new thread Who are we looking for in Leicester (part Four) Beverly

Hi Mike again. Edward Heawood 1834 born Braunstone married Mary Tyers had Daughters Mary & Catherine in Braunstone and then sons William and Joseph while living Oldbury Worc. Can trace them to 1871 still in Oldbury without wife (death). Can't find Edward in 1881 census. Think they may have gone back to Leicester as both sons married Leicester girls. Joseph stayed in Leicester but William (grandfather) was in Birmingham and then Smethwick. Would like to bridge this gap. Any clues. Thanks Margaret

Greeting's Again Robert...... Has I understand your last post...... You are seeking an other family group of Cooke's on the 1841. Census, other than the one Beverly found on her post :- 25/03/05. 19:52 hrs .. Seeing that it could be in the Derbyshire Area. May I suggest you put a enquiry on the 'Trying to Find Board' Give details and what you have ( but try and keep it brief) and see if some one who deals with Derbyshire can help you. (To do this you need at lest one person of the people you seek on your tree) MIKE. (I'm not trying to fob you off)

Thanks Mike Do appreciate your time over the holidays and it's been very interesting, have been off all week so covered some ground. I know I keep on but you have helped so much and it's all good stuff, I love surfing trying to find information and you usually pull it together often with an idea, I owe you many Elaine

Greeting's again Elaine..... Sorry NO events for Lucy Ann Hurst found...... I think a visit to the Records Office at Wigston is called for to trawl through Parish Records, is going to be your answer,due to the early dates but having said that the details if found will be very basic ......Sorry...... Margaret....... Again your very Welcome.... ONE disk !!! ...lol :0) I've over 36 and that's just for Leicestershire....Plus a further 60 for other areas..... Anyway do come back if you require any more look up's It's cheaper .....lol :o) MIKE.

Thanks again Mike. The Heawood marriages were interesting may be able to match someone eventually. Its all good fun though. Everyone keeps talking about discs? What are these and how do I get one? Mind you it is easier to ask someone else to do a look up especially when it is so successful.

Thanks Mike Need to ask one more t try and solve a problem. You gave me William Hurst's christening for 1810, I am looking for a possible brother for him called Thomas with what should be Charles and Lucy as parents. However Lucy Ann, William's sister was born abt 1831, do you think she will be on the parish disc as I would like to check her parents names. You're an absolute star Elaine

Greeting’s again Elaine…… The only Thomas Eld. Showing on the Parish Disk :- Christening. THOMAS ELD. 21st. Nov. 1819. Belgrave. Leicester. Father:- Joseph. Mother:- Ann. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. City of Leicester 1851. Census :- 2090 / 208 / 11 / 5. Ruding Street JAMES ELD HEAD M 49 M FLY DRIVER = Fly = small carriage (Trap) LEI LEICESTER JANE ELD DAU U 16 F NTH OUNDLE ANN ELD DAU 10 F LEI ROTHLEY ELIZA ELD DAU 7 F SCHOLAR LEI ROTHLEY JOSEPH ELD SON 5 M SCHOLAR NTH OUNDLE JOHN ELD SON 1 M LEI LEICESTER 2089 / 202 / 19 / 75. 6, Hampden Street. GEORGE ELD HEAD M 34 M GARDENER LEI BELGRAVE MARY ELD WIFE M 28 F LEI BARSBY WILLIAM ELD SON 4 M LEI LEICESTER ANN ELD DAU 9MTHS F LEI LEICESTER © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. *************** NO ELD Families in the Wigston Area 1841,51,1861. ELD Families in 1861.:- Leicester, Belgrave, Cossington. And One only in Groby:- Bradgate House. James Eld. 54. Servent Groom b. Leicester. To the Earl of Stamford Pear of the Realm….. (Same place of Lady Jane Grey.. 9 Day Queen of England ) Oh !…. Doffs hat and bows very low….. William Hurst’s In Wigston 1841.:- Ho 107 / 599 / 13 / Page. 26. Wigston Magna. Long Street. William Hurst. 40. Woollen Hosiery Maker. Ann. Wife. 40. Ebenezer. 20. Elizabeth. 15. Joseph. 12. Catherine.10. Harriet. 4. Emma. 1. All born within the County. *************** HO 107 / 599 / 14 / Page. 6. Wigston Magna. Little Hill. William Hurst. 25.Woolen Hosiery Maker. Rebecca. Wife. 25. William. 1. Sarah. 1. Month Old. All born within the County. ******************* Page. 13. Wigston Magna. Moat Street. William Hurst. 35. Woollen Hosiery Maker. Elizabeth. Wife.35. All born within the County. ***************** © Crown Copyright National Archives. Marriage Found :- MARY ELD. ~ THOMAS BLACK. St.Margaret’s Church, Leicester. 1821. By Banns. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. MIKE…. Exits left…. Walking backwards and bowing ( just in case ? )….lol :0).

Greeting's Again Margaret..... Re Marriage 1791.... Umm... Doing my sums.... Mary was 71. in 1841. making her year of birth 1770 ish....and it did state that she was born outside the County ? ..... Having looked at my Phillimores Marriages for Ratby. I think this maybe a better match... maybe these are the parents of Mary ? :- Richard Heawood. ~ Mary Yeoman. 26th. Nov. 1770. By Banns. Other Heawood Marriages found in Ratby :- (next Male generation back to Richard above ? ) Richard Heawood. ~ Sara Tookey. 26th. March. 1758. By licence. Robert Heawood. ~ Elizabeth Revell. 8th. July. 1765. By Banns. Joseph Heawood. ~ Jane Wright. 13th. Oct. 1786. By Banns. Notes :- He of Thurlaston. William Chapman. ~ Alice. Grime. 12th. Feb. 1771. By Banns. Notes:- He of Thornton. William Chapman. ~ Elizabeth Marvin. 20th. Jan. 1786. By Licence. Ann Chapman. William Marvin. 4th. Dec. 1892. By Banns. Note:- He a Labourer. John Chapman. ~ Elizabeth Brooks. 30th. Oct. 1809. By Banns. MIKE.

Greeting's Again John.... 1851. Census details:- 2088 / 409 / 04 / 15. 6, Halford Square, Lower Charles Street. THOMAS TOMPKINS HEAD M 41 M BREWER LEI MARKFIELD ANN TOMPKINS WIFE M 40 F LEI WARTNABY JOSEPH TOMPKINS SON U 14 M SHOEMAKERS APP LEI SMGT JAMES TOMPKINS SON 12 M LEI SMGT SARAH A TOMPKINS DAU 8 F LEI SMGT MATILDA TOMPKINS DAU 5 F LEI SMGT © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. Sorry I've amended details on 18671. forgot Joseph's age of 34. Good luck with the transcribing we are all waiting for it to come out..... MIKE.

Hi Mike, Big ask again for those Parish discs. Just found out my Ann who married William Hurst, was Ann Eld. Now I know she had a brother Thomas but as it is an unusual surname to me do you think you could have a look for me please. Now I am really in the dark as to whether they are Leicester people so can't tell you much except that William Hurst is the look up you did the other day when you found his christening in 1810 in Wigston and the birth cert I have for one of their children is 1839 and although she is Ann Hurst formerly Eld on the cert, her son is named Charles Eld so this bit I don't understand as to whether they were married at that point. Really appreciate this AGAIN. Thank you so much Elaine

Hi Mike its me again. On 1841 census you showed a Mary Heawood age 71 who could be previous generation. On one of my trawls somewhere I came across a marriage in Braunstone 1791 of William Heawood and Mary Chapman of Ratby. Do you think this could be same Mary. Margaret

Mike Many thanks, finally, hopefully, can you give me the Father of Joseph TOMPKINS 14 Shoemaker app?. will then leave you in peace whilst I continue transcribing the 1871 INDEX for LRFHS. Regards Jon

Greeting's Again John.... Are we talking about these from the 1871. Census ? :- 1.) No. 5, Church Gate Joseph TOMKINS 33. Yarn Dyer b. Leicester. Wife Ann. 2.) No. 33, Upper Charles Street. Joseph TOMKINS.34. Painter & Paper hanger. b Leicester. Wife. Jane. ******************** Then the closest match (same numbering as 1871.) For 1851. is as follows :- 1.) 57 Needle Gate. Joseph TOMKINS. Son. 12. Winder. b St Margaret's. (This is the Son of Samuel born KETTERING Northampton.) 2.) No. 6, Halford Sq. (Off Charles Street.) Joseph. TOMPKINS. Son. 14. Shoe Maker App. b. St Margaret's. MIKE.

Mike Thanks for checking the 1861 for Joseph TOMKINS X 2. The 1871 Census shows a Joseph age 33 and another age 34 both St Margarets parish, may I ask for a check of the 1851 to try and resolve my problem. Many thanks Jon

Greeting's Again Robert..... There you go then ....... Just a point of slight confusion ..... Bleamor ? ? is this a typing error of the translator ? and it should have been Eleanor Thomas's Wife. and also explains Aaron with grandparents in 1851. I see that on the 1871. Census Thomas has changed his occupation to Omnibus Proprietor and moved to 64, Granby Street.... MIKE. Good here ain't it ....lol :0) ~D] Tea Time now ~D]

Thanks Mike Wigston would be right but just can't seem to pull them all together. Later in 1871 a Hannah Griffin nee Hurst is in Hinckley with an Alfred Hurst, Alfred's mother is Jemima Stretton (Bev should remember that one) which brings me back to the surname of Hurst you deciphered ages ago -see I don't forget and it's a long round about way to give you a potted history and say thank you. Hannah's parents are William and Mary and my descendants are William and Ann and Thomas ??? who knows LOL Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine.... Sorry drew a blank..... and I have Index records of Hurst events of Wigston from 1607 ~ 1918. So expect you'll be back .....8-p.....lol 8-) MIKE.

Greeting's Again Margaret....... ' Your very Welcome '.... If I can help further you know where to come..... By the way the name of the Parish Church for Braunstone is ST. Peter's..... That is if you want to trawl through Parish Records for Edwards Christening Parish Records will be held at the Following :- Leicester & Rutland Records Office Long Street. Wigston Magna. LEICESTER. LE 18. 2AH. Tel. 0116 257 1080. Fax. 0116 257 1120. MIKE.