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Phoenix

Phoenix Report 18 Apr 2005 16:08

I have two mysterys I've been trying to solve for some time - 1) Looking for the Father of WILLIAM JAMES born MINEHEAD, SOMERSET c1820 - I found a record of Williams marriage to Harriet Court and it stated his Father's name as RICHARD. I found a RICHARD JAMES born MINEHEAD, SOMERSET c1796 married to a SARAH JAMES (nee BURGESS), but there is no mention of WILLIAM - perhasp he was illiegitimate son of Sarah? Can't find his birth or baptism. 2) I have been trying to trace the Husband of VIDA SPARKES born MINEHEAD, SOMERSET c1890. Her Husband was known as THOMAS BREWER allegedly born in LYNTON, DEVON c1892; however, he has been known as THOMAS HANNIFORD and possibly JAMES/HENRY BREWER! Can't find record of their marriage, but did find VIDA'S grave stone and she is down as VIDA BREWER! If anyone could help me solve either of these two mysteries it would be fantastic. Thanks Kaye x

 Debbie

Debbie Report 18 Apr 2005 15:50

My grandad seems to have gone missing from the census, and as I dont have his exact date of birth I cant order his birth cert. Henry George Elliott born c 1899, father was William Edward Elliott, on grandads marriage cert in Jan 1931 it stated that William was deceased and his occ was a wheelwright, Grandad lived and died in London, Lambeth/Vauxhall area so I am assuming he was born around there too. Any help would be appreciated, assuming they have been mistranscribed on 1901 census. Debs x

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 18 Apr 2005 14:26

thanks Gwynneth, I am tempted. i have sent for Charle's death certificate as I only found that last week. hat might give a clue as to whether he oulived Elizabeth. I checked with all the children i could find and none of them were in Peterfield area in 1901, in fact one was back in Somerset!! I can't think wy she would be in hospital or a home in that area as the family were from Portsea, and/or Landport. But there again, I wont know unles I gamble on it will I Ann Glos

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 18 Apr 2005 13:33

Syd Was that Hannah's maiden name as shown on a child's birth certificate? Could she have married someone and been widowed before marrying your grandfather? She would then probably have married with a different surname.

Sydney

Sydney Report 18 Apr 2005 13:14

Help needed please, on the marriage of my Grandperents. Sydney F Reed married Hannah Mary Lockett sometime between 1908/11 had a long search but no luck so far. Syd

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 18 Apr 2005 12:58

Ann I'd be tempted to look into the Petersfield death. As you know it's not far away if Elizabeth went into a home or hospital there. Can you find a record of a Will in the Calendar of Wills? There might be enough information there for you to decide whether or not this Elizabeth is likely to be yours.

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 18 Apr 2005 12:28

I have a brickwall, or mystery, call it what you will it is bugging me! My Great Grandfather, CHARLES WARNER born in Durston in 1841/2 (Father Robert Warner), married ELIZABETH LOMAN (Lowman) born Creech Somerset 23 March 1841, Father John Lowman. I have so far been unable to find a marriage for them. In the 1851 census ELIZABETH is living with her widowed Mother ANN LOMAN in Creech and CHARLES is living with his parents in Lyng Somerset. By the 1871 CHARLES is living in Portsmouth with ELIZABETH his wife and their first three children (they subsequently had 8). I have so far been unable to locate either of them in the 1861 census. Their first child Bessie was born in Creech Somerset in 1866, their second, Henry in Portsmouth in 1868, so I guess they moved between those two dates. Robert, CHARLE'S Father moved about the same time. I have trawled 1837 online but have not so far found a marriage. The other mystery is ELIZABETH WARNER'S death. CHARLES died in Portsmouth in 1904, they were both alive in the 1901 census ELIZABETH was 58 and they lived in Portsmouth. Nothing on Familysearch, and the only ELIZABETH WARNER on Free BMD was living in the Petersfield registration area. i suppose that is possible but I can find no link with Petersfield. anybody any ideas?? Ann glos

George

George Report 17 Apr 2005 17:56

Frances, try www.nationalarchivist(.)com its free to register then you need to buy a fivers worth of credits, but in the Harts Army List database there is an entry for a Henry Harwood, regiment: Army Pay department, 1888 Could be him George

Daniel

Daniel Report 17 Apr 2005 15:22

Yes this is my brick wall looking for my husbands grand parents one side is James McCaveny married in scotland born in Ireland father Daniel mother Mary Ann (nee Butler). Also my husbands grt.grandad James Welsh born 1837 in Ireland Father James also both were coalminers James Junior came to Scotland and married about 1861. can anyone help Irish ancestors are very hard to find. thank you beryl welsh

Rita

Rita Report 17 Apr 2005 11:29

Hi - I am looking for details of the following who is the only one of 10 siblings that I can't account for after birth. I can't find details of marriage or death freebmd. I thought I had found her death BUT the area was Holborn and the year from memory was 1875 after my Martha was born unless it was a transciption error. I was told previously that the 1891 census did not have details of the family but will give info. anyway just in case. Missing Child - Martha Elizabeth Prendiville (could be PrendEville/PrendERville) Born January 1887. She was a twin of Edward Thomas. Place of birth 49 Marigold St., Rotherhithe, London. I don't know if Edward married but he died in WWI. Family details: Father Michael Prendiville Mother Bridget Dau Bridget Dau Ellen Dau Martha (poss) Family were living at 7 Railway Avenue, Rotherhithein 1890 and were still there in the 1901 census. It is sad but five children died as infants (one by drowning in the Thames). Two died in the first world war. Two lived to a ripe old age - one my granny Gawd knows what happened to Martha. This branch of the family died out as all the males died - unless Edward and his Brother Dennis Joseph aka Joseph produced sprogs that no-one is aware of. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards Rita

Julie

Julie Report 17 Apr 2005 09:33

thanks Edith, i will give it a try Julir

snapdragon

snapdragon Report 16 Apr 2005 22:03

The brickwall I have is a Thomas Gordon Richardson he was born around 1899/ 1901 can find birth registrations for persons named that but not with a father called William who wa a Iron Moulder. They came from either Newcastle or Gateshead County Durham and lived in either Charles Street or Abbott Street or surrounding areas. Thomas married in 1920 and on the marriage cert it states father William deceased.

Hilary

Hilary Report 16 Apr 2005 21:35

If anyone can find these I would be forever gratefull, I've looked everywhere. Theophilus Iseley marr. Mary Croote in Shoreditch, London in 1798. All children born in Upwood, Hunts. No trace of Theo. & Mary. Know Mary came from Stotfold, Beds. Where does Theo. come from, he died in 1837, before any census. Also if anyone can find William Kerr marriage to Margaret Fleming in Scotland before 1800, better than me. Thanks Hilary.

Helen

Helen Report 16 Apr 2005 21:13

Bernie These are the only Gribbens with Irish origins in the Liverpool area in 1901. I think you must find your grandparents marriage cert. and see if this is the right family. Could Catherine have been born after 1901? Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image Joseph Gribben 42 Ireland Head West Derby Lancashire Bridget Gribben 38 Ireland Wife West Derby Lancashire Albert Gribben 15 Ireland Son West Derby Lancashire Mary Gribben 14 Colchester, Essex, England Daughter West Derby Lancashire William Gribben 12 Colchester, Essex, England Son West Derby Lancashire Hugh Gribben 9 India Son West Derby Lancashire Annie Gribben 5 Ireland Daughter West Derby Lancashire Thomas Gribben 3 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son West Derby Lancashire Margaret Gribben 2 months Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter West Derby Lancashire

Julie

Julie Report 16 Apr 2005 20:56

ive hit a brick wall with 3 brothers they are on the 1891 census but not the 1901 there names were john brook/e born 1883 hull yorkshire william brook/e born 1885 hull yorkshire and harold brook/e born 1889, just seem to have disapeared. someone suggested the boer war, but i think 2 of them would have been too young. does anyone know if there are any records for the boer war? julie

Unknown

Unknown Report 1 Apr 2005 08:18

My Mystery - The lady who keeps changing her name. John Alfred Chantler m 1857 in Marylebone Maria Letchford - on their son's birth cert it states Georgiana Maria Chantler formally Hall - John died not long after as: Maria Georgiana Chantler m 1864 in Kentish Town Peter Campbell - Peter died not long after as: Georgiana Maria Campbell m 1867 Marylebone John Hill. In the 1851 she is known as Maria Chantler as she is living with a George Chantler who is John Alfred Chantlers father and Maria Rebecca Chantler nee Hall her real mother. Really confused Linda

Smiley

Smiley Report 1 Apr 2005 00:43

Night Night ;)

~ Maryclare

~ Maryclare Report 1 Apr 2005 00:42

thanks for the help sam i'm laughing so loud at your answer to chris i'm p**ing my pants good night all maryclare

Smiley

Smiley Report 1 Apr 2005 00:36

Chris.. With that many kids.... and all the hard work making them... I expect the bloody house FELL down!

Smiley

Smiley Report 1 Apr 2005 00:34

Maryclare No problems with you asking... It would literally be a case of trawling through death records on 1837, but it'll cost you 4 units per year..at least and you have a time span of what, at least 10yrs by the sound of it. It's whether you want to spend that sort of money really. It would be a bit hit & miss wouldn't it? sam