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~ Maryclare

~ Maryclare Report 1 Apr 2005 00:17

thanks for that sam, he did'nt die in ww2, my sister tells me he died in an industrial accident at his place of work but no one knows how or when. is there such a thing as a record of people who died under these circumstances ? sorry if this is a silly question i.m still pretty new at this. i do have some credits left with 1837 but dont know where to look. maryclare

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Mar 2005 23:56

I,ve got a complete Brickwall as have discovered that my paternal grandparents were german, & altho the 1891 & 1901 census has them down as born germany ,English subjects. my visit to Kew found that they didnt take naturlization or denization ,so no idea as to where in germany they came from. Also altho i have details of two of the children (my grandad & his elder bro) & the death cert of the Mother & the two boys I have no idea what happened to the father or the other three brothers. Wish I could make progress on them!! Shirley

Smiley

Smiley Report 31 Mar 2005 23:51

Yes they do Maryclare, but they are on Pay-per-view sites only. 1837online and www.familysearch.org He didn't die in WW2 did he? Sam

~ Maryclare

~ Maryclare Report 31 Mar 2005 23:47

hi sammy thanks for your reply, its josephs death i'm looking for, or anything ! or am'i looking for something that does'nt exist yet ,are the records of deaths in the 1920s 30s 40s 50s available? maryclare

Smiley

Smiley Report 31 Mar 2005 23:29

MARYCLARE You wouldn't find a person born in 1912 on a census. The most recent census that can be accessed is 1901. As for BMD, I assume you have his birth as it would be on the same entry as your mothers, same surnames - same birthdays. Sam

Kazzie

Kazzie Report 31 Mar 2005 23:18

Mine is my gr x 4 grandfather William Claxton born wherever cant seem to come up with a place of birth for him going by his age at death would have made it 1777,ordered his death cert incase gave any clues yet made things more difficult as name said William claxton or Clarkson then age 62 with a line through it,only thing that was right was place of death and occupation flint cutter Kazzie

~ Maryclare

~ Maryclare Report 31 Mar 2005 23:07

if some one could please find my uncle before i go blind !!! JOSEPH COONEY born leeds yorkshire 9th dec. 1912 twin brother to my mother mary. son of alice and william. cant find him on census bmd or anywhere. he died as a young man , cant find his death.where he is buried, nothing . many thanks maryclare

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 31 Mar 2005 22:55

This one is driving me mad; in 1885 Teresa Sarah Walker married in the East End of London, aged 22 & died there in 1927, aged 63. Found a possible for her in 1881 in House for Fallen Women in Roath, Cardiff aged 19. (No babies there). Father Alfred (a printer) dead by the time of her marriage.In 1901 she says she is born in Bethnall Green, but so does her husband, & he definitely wasn't! Could find her no where in earlier censuses, but a lucky break lead me to a SARAH (Middle initial possibly T) Walker, (born c.1860 in St. Pancras) daughter of Alfred, a printer, born in the right time frame given to me by a GR member in 1861 & 1871. Have had GRO do me 2 birth cert. searches, one for Teresa, one for Sarah, both turned up nothing. Cannot get to Kew to do my own search at the moment (some one told me GRO's searches aren't always accurate!). It is driving me CRAZY. Any suggestions welcomed. LIZ

Mark

Mark Report 31 Mar 2005 22:41

Sword family from newcastle area mary jane born around 1855 her father james (got this from her marriage certificate) cant find her birth she just appears in 1871 as a servant in 1881 thers a thomas sword living with her and her husband think this could be her brother hes in a workhouse in 1871 her marriage was 1875 and does not say her father is deceased so whats going on???????????

Claire

Claire Report 31 Mar 2005 22:40

i have a brickwall,my husbands grandfather CYRIL LOWE was born 19/11/1907 in NOTTINGHAM. i know his fathers name was GEORGE LOWE and GEORGE died before 1938 when CYRIL got married to JULIA RANCE.the witness at the wedding were A.L.O'BRIEN and MARY DORIS LOWE.i know the o'brien is a rellie of julie but not sure if MARY is cyril's mum or sister.i do know he had a sister called mary.all this i think took place in NOTTINGHAM.i have looked on birth records for george but there are so many i don't know where to start. THANKYOU FOR ANY HELP

Marie

Marie Report 31 Mar 2005 22:28

This one is hard but if someone can check out some central London (Westminster, St. Giles, etc.) early records it might be able to be broken. William Peploe a gentleman of St Giles (from his will) wrote a will in 1734 and died in 1742. He was the son of Jonathan Peploe who died in 1709. He inherited some property in Perkins Rents from his maternal Granmother Bushell in 1704, these were again referred to in Jonathan's will. What I need to know is did he have any children before he died and if so what were their names. In his will, he leaves everything to his wife Elizabeth with no mention of children. But the will is dated 1734 and was proved in 1742. Plenty of time to have children. There is an Irish grandfather that claims there were several children. But he's mad and won't say any more There is a group from Lambeth area that claims descent from him. The earliest member of this group is born around 1780. There are about fifty years that need to be traversed to make the connection. I tried the Westminster archives to trace the property but they said I had more than they did on it. I'm now working my way through the central london parish registers. Any help would be appreciated. Marie

Philip

Philip Report 31 Mar 2005 22:22

My GG Grand father was Carlo Diani, shows on 1901 and 1891 census returns. Problem I have is the returns give the place of birth as Switzerland. Can't find any passenger records on ships for him and looking on the swiss genealogy sites it appears that you need to know hometowns and cantons before you can search. Even then the online services appear to charge a fortune to research for you. Looks like the Alps are in my way not just a brick wall :(

David

David Report 31 Mar 2005 22:18

CAROLINE MARY HEASLEY On 1861 shows as the wife of George Sherriff(s) 37 a hawkwr Age 29 dressmaker Born Leamington, Warwickshire. On 1881 The wife of George (Sheriff) a hawker, is Mary, born in Greenwich. Son George, 6 in 1881, BS gives mother as Caroline Mary Sherriff, formerley heasley. Can anyone find them on the 1871, under the names of Sheriff, Sherriff, or Sherriffs? Can't find any marriage for either lady, or death. George died 1899 Dec St Olave, 78 1d 144. Ages differ greatly, but they often do in these cesuses (should it be censii?) Can anyone find them in 1871 or any earlier census? David

CATHKIN

CATHKIN Report 31 Mar 2005 22:18

Here`s a Scottish one Can`t find birth of my great ,great grandmother MARY RATTRAY or RATTERY born 1842/1843 in St.Vigeans, Forfar according to 1871 Census. I`ve looked on scotlands people, IGI and there are other MARYS but not right one-her parents are ROBERT and ISABEL I`ve got her death, marriage, childrens births-she had 5 to 3 different men. Thanks anyone. Rosalyn

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 31 Mar 2005 22:08

Mary Jane Broadway .I can find her siblings except Jack but he was born after 1900 so not too bothered bout him, anyway she was born in 1897 and im sure its bedworth , warwickshire but i may be mistaken, her dad was samuel broadway 1860, her siblings were Caroline 1884, George c.1888, Alice c.1889 and jack c.1931, also she married a John/Jack Blundred who was from Longton, Stoke, I know she lived in Wootton St, Bedworth before she died in c.1978. She had a few children too, Horace, Brian c.1936, Lilian 1916, Violet, Nell, Jack, Florence and Raymond ( he died young tho )can anyone help thanks

Risha

Risha Report 12 Feb 2005 17:29

Yes I too am bashing my noggin against a brick wall and it is sooooo frustrating!!!! Joseph Towman... changed his name to Livingstone as he took on the name of an old couple who looked after him like their son, but apparently didn't change it officially as on his death Towman was on his pension book, but he was married in the name of Livingstone to a Lena Kane (Cane-?) Grrrrr see what I mean?! Can't find any info on them... both from Northern Ireland, (Portadown, Armagh). Joseph was said to be a Romani Gypsy and was an orphan (hence the Livingstone couple who took him on) Their children Daniel, Stephen and James Patrick Livingstone. Stephen died sometime in the 1970's in Ireland. Daniel was married to Mary (known as Marry or Minnie) Hamilton also from N Ireland. Apparently also said to be of Romani stock on her mother's side, and had a brother called Jimmy who was a horse dealer. They moved to Barrow-in-Furness iin the 1930's. Daniel died in Barrow 1939 of gangreen to the legs. Address listed: 69 Harrison Street. Mary died in Salford 5 in 1945, address listed: James Henry Street. Daniel and JP were both in the 1st Royal Infantry (RIF) address listed was 44 John Street. Listed as Dan Livingstone Reg No: 5361 and JP Livingstone Reg No: 11842 both 1915. I assume Joseph and Lena had more children as they had big families in those days! Daniel and Mary had 6 boys and 3 girls. Joseph Towman (Livingstone) + Lena Kane (Cane?) Daniel Livingstone died 1939 + Mary Hamilton Died 1945 Stephen Livingstone died 1970's James Patrick Livingstone Any information would be wonderful coz stagnant waters stink! Cheers Risha

Jacky

Jacky Report 12 Feb 2005 03:08

i have a castle of brick walls every corner i turn i hit 1cant find any info on my nan + grandad from county offaly ireland peter kenny dob 2 may 1894 ferbane county offaly (kings county) nan margaret delaney dob 2 oct 1902 banagher kings county they married in dec 1924 ireland then moved to liverpool approx 1925. my nans sister annie delaney married my grandads brother thomas kenny (not sure when though). i m not a defeatist but im giving up now been on every site possible really stressing me out now. i know my grandad served under the british flag in ww1 but dont know what regiment just know he was in india. believe thomas kenny had bakery in ferbane or tullamore that was passed down through the family but i cant even get any info on that PLEASE PLEASE SOMEONE GIVE ME A START IVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 8MTHS AND HAVENT GOT ANYWERE AT ALL IM DEPRESSED NOW HHEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPPP MMMEEEEE PLEASE

DorothyG

DorothyG Report 11 Feb 2005 21:26

I'd be very grateful if anyone could throw light on this brickwall: My Mother's side of the family: I am looking for either: Her stepfather: Paul Stewart Wilkie dob c. 1893/4 Balfron Married my grandmother: 17/3/1926 Death certificate please? Also the Children of this marriage: Thought to be Helen and Doris, born mid-late 1930s probably in Glasgow Also: Mother's birth father: John Edgar Hepburn dob: 27/6/1884 at Parkhead, Glasgow : Died 27/9/1942 Springburn, Glasgow Informant: married sister Margaret Affleck - any body know the family please?

George

George Report 11 Feb 2005 16:00

nudge for all who are trying to knock a wall down :~)

Linda

Linda Report 2 Feb 2005 20:47

I have a relative identified in the 1871 census names Grace Redding - son born 1849, cannot find anything. Any help would be appreciated Linda