Genealogy Chat

Such an interesting real life story.

Brilliant work by a brilliant team of people.

Suexxxxxxxxx

nudge for later

Wow!!!

Have been off the site for a few days and what a difference in everything!!

Well done to all involved in the research, this is better reading than the book I'm on at the moment

Julie

Hi Folks,
hope to get this back on the first page soon, seems to be a lot of deleted posts since I looked yesterday.
Keep up the good work everyone you are doing a fantastic job
Regards
Chris

hi,
what with all the deleted bits.
phyllis

just had a few days away and i come back and everything has changed on this site. i feel like a newbie but the story is still enthralling.
linda x

ok... so I clicked to edit my post and it deleted it? What was that about?

Anyway, to go back over what I'd said. I wondered if maybe the 1962 date of divorce coincided with some changes in divorce law. When I googled divorce 1962, it gave me the introduction of the 'no-blame divorce' but on closer inspection, this appears to be to do with the USA. A second google attempt has found that the divorce reform act in the UK didn't come in until 1969, which is too late for Hetty & William's divorce. But this act established divorce on the basis of irretrevable breakdown (desertion by one party etc). My thoughts initially were that maybe Henrietta didn't want to put the fault on William but closer inspection shows that the no fault divorce doesn't exist in the UK, which suggests to me that the petition should give a reason.

Another reason she may have waited so long...perhaps it just took her new man that long to propose marriage to her. lol.

have just got back off holiday and spent the last hour catching up what a clever lot you are and how busy you all have been look forward to reading more and keep up the good work julia

I think you can only access the family tree on Ancestry if you are a member. However somebody kind has put her details on GR as well. Just type in Patricia Armstrong in the Quick Search above and she is on page 10 - born 1934 Plumstead, London, Kent. I think from there you can message the person who set her up and get them to open up the tree to you.

I still can't find the public tree on Ancestry. Haven't had any experience of looking on that part of the site before. Can someone give me some instructions please? Many thanks

Just to let you all know, I have been into Newcastle today and ordered the following Certificates. Theresa Wilson and her marriage to John Hayes 1916 Newcastle. The Birth of John G Hayes MMN Wilson 1917. Newcastle. The Birth of Cecilia Wilson Newcastle 1909. We really have a hunch on this. *Updated after posting* Think we may have boo booed on this one. Lol. The Marriage of John G Hayes to Annie Maxwell. 1942 Tynemouth. Going on past Certifiicates I have ordered in person in Newcastle, I could get them tomorrow. Fingers Crossed. Rachel and Maggie are in in touch with me many times a day, via email or telephone. Please keep reading this thread to see how we are doing. Jenny in Tynemouth.

Hi All, I have just removed the list of names supplied by Joe. I may be in error and so have you going in the wrong direction. Once I've double checked it, if it's OK I'll post it again, otherwise sorry. Bye Paul

Update from Woolwich I went to First Avenue House (Probate & Divorce records in London) Henrietta Maud Armstrong – Petitioner William Armstrong – Respondent [blank] - Co-Respondent Decree Nisi – 9th February 1963 Decree Absolute – 13th May 1963 Unfortunately, it doesn't give a reason for the divorce - separated for 7yrs, abandonment etc George and Henrietta lived at the same address for over 20 years prior to their marriage in July 1963 - I wonder what changed to make them get married? Thanks Rachel

hi everyone after a tip off from nicola chapman I have spent a good couple of hours reading all the messages. my husband is also connected to this family tree through teresa moneghan. I have asked around and no one in the family had heard this story. however have managed to find out that henrietta would have been able to divorce in the eyes of the law after 7 years if her husband had 'abandoned her' even though the divorce may not have been recognised by the catholic church. so if her husband had spent a long time in hospital - or maybe could just not face going home after the war and the death of her daughter - she could legally divorce him without his consent. The catholic church would not recognise the divorce, and subsequently not allow her to remarry in a catholic church. but we know her second marraige was registry office (if I remember the notes correctly). I am also making enquiries into the RA reference - not sure this will bring up anything new. Has anyone pursued the angle of records from the train company? if I can do anything to help let me know fantastic job and thanks to everyone involved.

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hi, nudge for later, phyllis

Please read message from Rachel above If you’d like access to the GR tree ‘Patricia Armstrong - A Sad Little Tale’ please PM me. Thanks

There is a public tree on Ancestry, http://trees(.)ancestry(.)co(.)uk/pt/person.aspx?tid=3429187&pid=-1735522717&pg=0 Cut and paste and then remove the three sets of brackets - leaving the dot. There is also now one on GR which is an import from a personal tree on Ancestry. In order to get this to work a GR account has been created in the name of Patricia. I'll post another message from that account and then I can give you access. Thanks Rachel