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Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 3 Sep 2007 23:44

Greeting’s & Welcome……Caroline.

I take it it’s the Belton on the West side of the County near to Shepshed ?
Not the other one on the boarders of Leicestershire/ Rutland.

Looks like Father Charles could have died before the 1841. Census

Hall Burials for Belton.

HALL Charles 29 Jun 1838 Aged.40

Noted this interesting one which might give you a clue of the Wife for Charles

HALL Geo 16 Sept. 1837 Aged.2 Son Of Charles & Mary

1841. Census Returns :~

HO107 / 594./ Bk. 13./ Fol. 17./ Page. 10.
Long Street.
Mary Hall. 45.
Edward Ditto. 20. Ag Lab.
John. Ditto.15. Frame Work Knitter.
Charles. 15.
Hannah. 8.
Mary. 2.
All Born in the County.

And could it be that William is staying with Grandparents :~

HO 107./ 594./ Bk.13./ Fol. 5./ Page. 3.
Edward. Hall. 65.Frame Work Knitter.
Mary. 60.
William. 35. Ditto.
George. 25. Ditto.
All Born within the County.

Going on the fact Charles has died.
Could it be that Charles‘s brother Edward.
Is within the household of Mary
And William Jnr. Is with Grand parents ?

Do not forget that on this Census
the ages of those over 15 were rounded DOWN
to the nearest multiple of Five.
Hence you get two Sons aged 15.

But I will have a look at Parish Registers for you this week and get back to you on this thread

Marriages Found :~
St. John the Baptist Parish Church.

Edward Hall. ~ Mary Hall.
26th. December.1794.
By Banns.

Charles Hall. ~ Mary WHITE.
17th. June. 1816.
By Banns.

MIKE. xx

Seems like Caroline's post as gone walkies ? .....


Frazzled Report 4 Sep 2007 17:56

Hi Mike

Thank you so much for the information you have given me. Sorry about disappearing message pressed the wrong button! Still a novice.

On William's marriage cert it said that his father was a Frame Work Knitter and it looks like many of the family did that as a living. I thought William might have been a rebel and did not want to follow that path. Perhaps that is why his widowed mother has put him with the grandparents.

It would be great to find out William's siblings to see if I have any relatives in the Leicester area. Sadly after becoming a grenadier guard William appears as a policeman in the 1861 census in St Sepulchre London and by the 1871 census he has died.

Thank you again for your time and I look forward to hearing any more news from you.

Caroline x


Marcie Report 5 Sep 2007 17:49

hi mike
pleae can you help, i,m looking for the marriage of sarah simmons d.o.b. 1767 in shawell & william buckingham, if they had children & it,s possible i,d like to know them also
many thanks marcie

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 5 Sep 2007 22:18

Greeting’s Again….. Caroline…..

Trawled the Belton Parish Baptism Registers 1813. ~ 1857.
as promised…..
NO William Hall c 1829. Son of Charles & Mary ?.... Found

The only Sibling ref to a Charles & Mary. Was Thus :~

Entry. No. 43.
In the Margin. Born 6th. Aug. 1839.
Baptised 6th. Jan. 1840.
Mary. Daughter of Charles & Mary Hall.
Stocking Maker.
John Eddowes. Curate.

Seeing that Charles & Mary had Mary Baptised latter on from birth
May need to widen the search to see if I can find him in any Parish close by.

Spotted this one as well :~
Page. 84.
Entry. No. 668.
4th. Aug. 1850.
William. Son of Charles & Sarah hall.
Stocking Maker.
J.H. Cardew. Curate.

MIKE.xx …The search continues …..

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 5 Sep 2007 22:47

Greeting’s Again. …… Marcie.


All Saints Parish Church
Shawell. Leicestershire.

ANNO DOMINI :~ 1787.

Page. 8.
Entry No. 29.

Philip Hewitt. Bachelor of this Parish.
Mary Simmons. Spinster. Of this Parish.

Married in this Church following Banns.
By Me :~ Stephen Hartley. Curate.
This Twenty-third Day of October.
In the year of our Lord
One Thousand Seven Hundred and Eighty Seven.

Philip signed by own signature.
Mary by her Mark = I ( just a straight downward line )

Witness :~
James Sadgley. ..... Parish Clark.
John Ward.
Tho’s Higginson.

With your other inquiry Re Sarah who married a William Astill.
I’m Still searching for the Marriage……..

Seems we’ll not get any Baptism details for both of these
The Baptism Registers at the Records Office START 1760.

Just noticed your further inquiry today for a Marriage of
Sarah Simmons. ~ William Buckingham…..
I will have a look for this next time…….

But in the meantime here is her Baptism details
Which I spotted whist looking for the Sarah ? c 1857.
who married William Astill.
Baptism Registers read thus :~

All Saints Parish Church. Shawell.

ANNO DOMINI. :~ 1767.

Sarah. Daughter of Edward Simmons & Mary his Wife …..Bapt…..22nd.Nov.

Hope this helps.

MIKE. xx


Frazzled Report 6 Sep 2007 09:01

Thank you Mike for looking through the registers.

Don't know if this helps but the witnesses to William Hall's marriage in 1850 were William and Ellen Waters. Looked him up and he is also a Private soldier but different barracks. In 1851 census he is listed twice, once with his family and he is from Belton, Leicestershire and again at his barracks and there it says he is from Sheepshead which I have taken to be Shepshed.

So perhaps William and his family were in Shepshed at some point???

Thanks again for looking
Caroline x


MaryfromItaly Report 6 Sep 2007 22:09

Safely back in Italy now - thanks to everyone for a very enjoyable mini-meet.

Mike, one of the wills I got from the Record Office turned out to be fantastic. It was the will of William Wood North, and he left part of his estate to "my natural son William North" - ie. William North formerly Screaton, illegitimate son of William Wood North's wife Mary Screaton, whose father I've been trying to identify for months.

We did have a look at the Baptist records at Rothley, but there was no mention of our Norths or Screatons, so if the will hadn't confirmed William Jr's parentage I'd never have found it.

Thanks again for all your help at the Record Office.



Marcie Report 6 Sep 2007 22:17

hi mike
&many thanks for info, i appreciate the help you are giving me
marcie x

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 6 Sep 2007 23:25

Greeting’s Mary O’ Italy…….

So……… Glad you arrived back in Italy safely. ……..

I trust Mario enjoyed his visit this time ?
Did your Son survive his trip as well ?

Pity about the Baptism Records in Rothley…..:0((((

Hey Ho ….
But you gained by the Photo copier set on “ Staff Use “….lol :0)))

I did not find any further info from the Workhouse Books…….

If I can help further just ask please.

MIKE. xxx

Elaine should have arrived back from her wanderings to day Too


Willsy once more

Willsy once more Report 7 Sep 2007 00:16

All back safe and sound!


Jane Report 7 Sep 2007 22:23

Glad you arrived back safely Mary,

won't ask about the photocopier...... sounds dodgy to me, he he

Elaine, hope you had a good trip too, hope you're not too brown!!!!

you'll be pleased to know i finished the painting, & am now living in Beirut, with no water downstairs, no cooking facilities and all off my kitchen in the lounge.....

why do i start these things????

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 7 Sep 2007 23:47

Auntie Jane ????

Sounds like you’ve started the Birthday celebrations already it’s not till 16th.

Luffbra Brigade on stand bye as I type ……

We did the Christian thing informed the staff about Photocopier AFTER we had printed off the three pages for the 1st Will….

Beirut. ? ….You gone into the export business for….. Wone Key’s ?

The Fat Controller. xxx

Willsy once more

Willsy once more Report 8 Sep 2007 10:17

Hi Jane
No, not too brown, very nice break it was!
Hope the kitchen takes shape soon


MaryfromItaly Report 8 Sep 2007 22:07

Hi Mike,

I'm ploughing through burials at the moment, and I've found a couple that I'm puzzled about.

1. Ethel Slingsby North died on 24/09/1904 at 11 Nichols Street, Leicester (I have her death cert.), but I can't find a burial for her at Welford Road. All the rest of the family seem to be there - any idea where she might be?

2. My grandmother had twins in 1921 (Constance Jessie Pool and Mary Pool, MMN North). I was told they died when they were about 7 weeks old. I've found their births and deaths in the Ancestry full index (Leicester, 1st quarter of 1921), but I can only find a burial at Welford Road for Mary (aged 2 days). Any idea why that might be? I did check the stillbirths.

The GRO death entries aren't consecutive: Mary is no. 313 and Constance is 325, so she presumably died later.


Donna Report 10 Sep 2007 14:45

Hi Mike
Thank you for looking
for the Edward Gamble marriage for me sorry i havent replied sooner but new addition to the family limits my playtime now.Idont think that marriage is the one im looking for as i think that he is married to Elizabeth then...on IGIi found Edward Gamble and Elizabeth Goode(of Little Glen)married Aylestone 24th October 1814. Would you be able to look up this for me that is if you have the disc to check it out i think there was another one on IGI same couple but different date like 14th October 1814/15. I think Elizabeth dies after 1828 as this is when Job is born on the 3rd Sept 1828 i dont know where but he was christened the following year at St George Street Primitive Methodist Church along with his sister Ruth. I only know of t Andrews Church in Aylestone are there any others .
Thanks Donna

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 13 Sep 2007 22:01

Greeting’s Again…… Donna..

Parish Registers for
St Andrew’s Parish Church.
Aylestone. Leicestershire.

Reads thus:~

ANNO DOMINI :~ 1814.
Page. 3.
Entry No. 9.

Edward Gamble. of the Parish of Enderby
In the Country of Leicestershire.

Elizabeth Goode. of the Parish of Little Glen
In the Country of Leicestershire.

Married in this Church by Banns
By Me :~ Gilbert Beresford. Rector.

This TWENTY - FOURTH. Day of October.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Fourteenth.
BOTH signed by their own Marks = X times two.

Wit’s :~
William Matts.
Thomas Besey ? sorry not too clear.

No sign of the other marriage in the years
You stated
I did trawl the Registers 1813 ~ 37………… just in case.

The other C o E Church for Aylestone ?
St. James Parish Church.
within Aylestone Park Parish.
But their Marriage registers don’t start till 1881.

Hope this is of some help.

MIKE. xx


Donna Report 15 Sep 2007 10:31

Hi Mike
Thank you so much for this information, really appreciate it... i think i have found his second marriage to an Ann in 1835 on IGI her last name is Tunnicliffe and they were married in Enderby.
Even though my Edward keepd having the Enderby tag attatched to him, i think he is born elsewhere (Mowsley)as looking for Job (Edwards son)in 1841 in Leicestershire i couldny find them...missed the Leicestershire out and Job appeared in Foleshill Warwickshire with Edward and Ann .......then in another census it says that this Edwards birthplace is Mowsley.
I dont know if im clutching at straws but playing Miss Marple can be fun....hope im on the right track.
Thanks again Mike

Willsy once more

Willsy once more Report 15 Sep 2007 12:25

Hi Mike
Did you ask your friend if I should of had a reply from the police archives by now? If not would appreciate the address again, have saved the original letter but can't find the address... know I can hear you groaning, hangs head in shame again

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 15 Sep 2007 18:34

*** F.A.O. *** Friend of One legged Donkeys….

Funny I only spoke to my Colleague on Monday Evening on this very subject........
He's now retired but said to try again. :~

Archive Department.
Leicestershire Constabulary
Force Headquarters
St Johns
LE19 2BX.

Fat Controller. xxx

Willsy once more

Willsy once more Report 15 Sep 2007 20:08

Thank you
Shunts along now...