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Maltilda Report 17 Aug 2007 21:07


Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 17 Aug 2007 17:07

Keep nudged with Part 2

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 16 Aug 2007 23:44

Because new postings aren't being shown I've deleted some of my earlier messages (nudges, replies etc.) which has now produced the new messages and the tale has been moved to 'A Sad Little Tale 2'


Mumsy Report 16 Aug 2007 23:02

Please POST REPLIES on Sad Little Tale - Part 2 Paul has opened a continuation thread. Mumsy

Wendy Woo

Wendy Woo Report 16 Aug 2007 22:54

hi wow i am been reading this thread, i would help as have access but after i have written it all down i am sure it will be solved - i dont have any more messages after 20.14 - has it all gone quiet????


Daniel Report 16 Aug 2007 22:53

Just testing. I keep seeing the numbers go up and no actual replys as the thread has reached maximum number's. Danny


Paul Report 16 Aug 2007 22:51

Hi All, I have opened up another thread 'A Sad Little Tale - Part 2' which may make it easier for us all to move to. I hope you do not mind Many thanks Paul


Paul Report 16 Aug 2007 22:48

Hi Jenny, I must admit it's all going faster than I can keep up with. All I can say is if you feel you have a lead then go for it. After not working out how to read the latest replies I have some catching up to do. I did listen to Win on the Radio on 'Listen Again' via my PC and he presented his story extremely well and I think graciously acknowledged the help flowing in from people like us. It amazing the interest it has raised. Disappointing that there are no records at the Parish Archives but keep my fingers crossed that something may come to light in the Bethal Chapel. Bye Paul


Mommylonglegs Report 16 Aug 2007 22:46

Yes lynne we think it is. Her middle name is Fisher, her Mothers maiden name. We also think Peter born 1906 could be another sibling. There are also what could be twins Isabella and Thomas Henry. ?? This thread is getting so large now, it is getting impossible to follow unless you read all the way through it. Plus by the sounds of it, Paul is missing posts or loosing them. Jenny.


Paul Report 16 Aug 2007 22:37

Hi All, Is it time to spit it into 'A Sad Little Tale 2'. Even I was totally confused as to where my messages were disappearing. It may also be easier for others. What do you think? Bye Paul


Mommylonglegs Report 16 Aug 2007 22:33

Hi Paul, its Jenny in Tynemouth. I am sure all this backtracking could pay off. My aim has been to try and find a living decendant of Patricia's. The only way I could help was if any of her ancestors came from my area. then I could use the local Library to look at Electoral Rolls. It is starting to look good. I have just found a family tree with Living relatives of Theresa Silmon. If it is all authentic, I am in the middle of checking it on the census as far back as I can, it takes us back to at least Patricia's Maternal GGGGrandparents. As I said, my aim is to find a living relative of Patricia's in this area, that may be able to tell us more. Has anyone ever heard of the Jazz player, Joe Silmon??? Well his father was a George Simon born 1889. He was Theresa's Brother. Shall I carry on with my searching? Jenny.


Mommylonglegs Report 16 Aug 2007 22:03

Hi Lynne, no your not way off, Randell did marry Isabella Fisher. I found Randell with his parents Peter and Mary. See my previous posts. I have just had another major breakthrough, re Theresa and William Silmon. Will post in a few minutes. Jenny.


Mumsy Report 16 Aug 2007 21:31

Hello all, Win Evans and I have just trawled through all the parish documents in Radyr parish we could find for that time period. No burial records held after 1926 when it ceased to be the church’s responsibility. But on the trail of the subsequent records anyway. PCC minutes: no mention of paying for the funeral or the grave. Parish accounts: likewise. Record of services conducted: nothing. It occurred to us that the funeral service may not have been at St John’s after all but at Bethel, which was at the time, the church for Morganstown, although Patricia is buried in St John’s. If/when we get sight of the other records, I’ll report again. Keep up the good work everyone and thanks from Win for all that you’re doing. Didn’t he do well on the radio this afternoon! Mumsy.


CherryCrumbles Report 16 Aug 2007 20:41

I'm back ............................. what wonderful progress has been made !! Will be following this with interest; unfortunately I dont think there is any further useful contribution I can make. Christine


Ivy Report 16 Aug 2007 20:14

On the Armstrong side, William might be tricky to locate, but the father's name Peter is more unusual. On the list of members' interests there are two members researching Peter Armstrong born in Yetholm, Roxburgh (see Janice's posting, page 17, 19.17 pm). A subsequent posting suggested that the Roxburgh birth is a little more likely of the two possibles. Both members give the date of birth for the Peter Armstrong as 1827/8, which may be too early, but the members could probably offer some advice on individuals with that surname around that date in that town. Has anyone already tried contacting these members (David and Susan)?


Daniel Report 16 Aug 2007 20:01

Great thread, you can listen to that radio program on BBC radio player station: Radio Wales program: Good Evening Wales Thursday, 42 minutes into the program keep up the good work


Mommylonglegs Report 16 Aug 2007 19:53

So my 'hunch' yesturday was correct. See my post yesturday. I am waiting for a reply from a GR member who I PM'd yesturday. He has a Frank Silmon, in his tree. He has no year or place of Birth though. Just thought it was worth a try. Jenny.

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 16 Aug 2007 19:22

How many times can one guy change his name, every thing else fits.

1881 census

Name: Mahomet De W. Silmon
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sara J. De W.
Gender: Male
Where born: Africa

Civil Parish: Tynemouth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: 43 Edith St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Employment status:

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Occupation: Waiter Hotel (Serv)

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Carlo A. Silmon 5
Josephine R. Silmon 1
Leonora M. Silmon 4
Mahomet De W. Silmon 27
Sara J. De W. Silmon 25
William O. Silmon

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 16 Aug 2007 19:10

Now I'm confused!

1901 census

Name: Tereasa Silmon
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William W
Mother's Name: Sara J
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle

Civil Parish: Elswick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:


Condition as to marriage:


Employment status:

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Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 232
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert Bonalls 18
Frank Monaghan 39
Lenora Pirola 24
Ferdinand Silmon 2
Frank Silmon 16
Frederick Silmon 13
George Silmon 12
Gertridge Silmon 4
Mary Silmon 8
Sara J Silmon 43
Tereasa Silmon 18
William Silmon 20
William W Silmon 49

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 16 Aug 2007 19:04

or birth:

Name: Theresa Amilia Wild-Silmon
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 44 (click to see others on page)

Think this is most likely as on the marriage entry she is Theresa A W Silmon.