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A Sad Little Tale (Closed)

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Janice Report 15 Aug 2007 19:17

These are the only 2 Scottish births between 1835 and 1845 for a Peter Armstrong: 08/10/1835 ARMSTRONG PETER JOHN ARMSTRONG/JEAN DOWALL FR343 U Minnigaff /KIRKCUDBRIGHT 22/05/1836 ARMSTRONG PETER DAVID ARMSTRONG/JEAN MATHEWSON FR387 M Yetholm /ROXBURGH and these are the only 2 marriages with the right names: 1861 ARMSTRONG PETER GLENDINNING MARY CASTLETON /ROXBURGH 1855 ARMSTRONG PETER LOGGAN MARY INCH /WIGTOWN Janice


Mommylonglegs Report 15 Aug 2007 19:10

News from Tynemouth William Armstrong was born 30th May 1909 in Amble Northumberland. According to Artillery but on his Marriage Certificate it says he was 22 so born in 1911. I shall try and get to Berwick RO to confirm which year he really was born. William's Father was a Randall Armstrong. Randal married in June Q 1903 in Alnwick Northumberland. His Wife is Isabel Fisher. Randal Armstrong was born in March Q 1870 in Bellingham Northumberland to Peter Armstrong and Mary ? I would imagine they married in Scotland. I have found them on the 1871/81/91 and 1901 Census. Peter Armstrong was born c 1840 in Scotland. Mary ? Northumberland. They children were William born 1858 Scotland. James born 1863 Scotland, Margaret born 1864 Scotland, Grace born 1866 Scotland. Wilhelmia (Minnie) born 1869 Northumberland. Randal born 1870 Northumberland. I have spoken to Rachel on the telephone today and we have exchanged numerous emails. Rachel has also found these following Births which we think may be Williams Siblings. Isabella and Thomas Henry may be Twins of Randal Armstrong and Isabella Fisher. Peter Armstrong Born 1906 Alnwick, WILLIAM ARMSTRONG born 1910 Alnwick. Grace Fisher Armstrong born 1912 Alnwick. If my Husband can, he will take me to Berwick on Tweed Records Office tomorrow or Friday to check these Births out. But I am not making any promices. I have rushed this posting because Hubby is waiting to take me out for a couple of hours. But thought you would all be waiting to see what we have found. Will be back later. Jenny.


Janice Report 15 Aug 2007 19:03

1901: Randal Armstrong Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relation: Son Father's name: Peter Mother's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Plashetts, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Amble Ecclesiastical parish: Amble Town: Amble County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Alnwick Sub-registration district: Warkworth Mary Armstrong 68 Minnie Armstrong 32 Peter Armstrong 61 Randal Armstrong 30

Mummy Bear

Mummy Bear Report 15 Aug 2007 18:53

News from Woolwich - Part Four As you can all see today's been a really good day - the certificates arrived, I managed to get some info about Williams time in the RA. Jenny - who offered help will post her findings - she been focusing in the Newcastle area - she found some interesting details. Again if any of you can offer help - have suggestions on where to go next we'd love to hear from you Thanks Rachel

Mummy Bear

Mummy Bear Report 15 Aug 2007 18:48

News from Woolwich - Part Three Details of William Armstrong’s enlistment William Armstrong – 777708 DoB: 30 May 1909 Parish: Amble Enlisted: 12 January 1928 in Newcastle Upon Tyne Discharged: 23rd October 1941 KR390 Xvii (Sickness & Illness) Thanks Rachel

Mummy Bear

Mummy Bear Report 15 Aug 2007 18:47

News from Woolwich - Part Two Below are the marriage details of George Francis and Henrietta Maud Armstrong 1962 Marriage solemised at The Register Office in the District of Woolwich in the Metropolitan Borough of Woolwich No: 139 When Married: Fifth July 1962 Male Name and Surname: George Francis Age: 53 Condition: Bachelor Rank or Profession: Bus Conductor London Transport Executive Residence at the time of Marriage: 9 Engineer Road Woolwich Father;s Name and Surname: George Francis (Deceased) Rank or Profession of Father: Furnace Worker Female Name and Surname: Henrietta Maud Armstrong Age: 54 Condition: Previous Marriage dissolved Rank or Profession: Receptionist (Foot Clinic) Residence at the time of Marriage: 9 Engineer Road Woolwich Father;s Name and Surname: Anthony Wilson (Deceased) Rank or Profession of Father: Seaman Merchant Service Married in the Register Office by Licence before me Signed H E Turner – Superintendent Registrar and H J Fox Deputy Registrar This marriage was solemnised between us: Signed .. G Francis and H M Armstrong In the Presence of us: Signed: J G Carey and E M Carey Thanks Rachel

Mummy Bear

Mummy Bear Report 15 Aug 2007 18:46

News from Woolwich Below are the details of the marriage of: William Armstrong and Henrietta Maud Wilson 1933 Marriage solemnized at: St Peters Roman Catholic Church New Road in the District of Woolwich in the County of London No: 66 When Married: Twenty Second April 1933 Male Name and Surname: William Armstrong Age: 22 Condition: Bachelor Rank or Profession: 777708 Gunner R.A. Residence at the time of Marriage: Royal Artillery Barracks, Woolwich Father’s Name and Surname: Randal Armstrong (Deceased) Rank or Profession of Father: Seaman Merchant Service Female Name and Surname: Henrietta Maud Wilson Age: 25 Condition: Spinster Rank or Profession: Housemaid Residence at the time of Marriage: 53 The Avenue Beckenham Father’s Name and Surname: James Anthony Wilson (Deceased) Rank or Profession of Father: Seaman Merchant Service Married in the St Peters Church according o the Rites and Ceremonies of the Roman Catholics by certificate by me. G J Donnelly. Frederick Hardwick. Registrar (Acting) This marriage was solemnised between us: Signed .. William Armstrong; H M Wilson In the Presence of us: Signed: M.Allen; D. Mascall Rachel


Paula Report 15 Aug 2007 16:28

Hi Paul, Do you happen to know where in the States Roy Harris is? I live in California and know of a Roy Harris~ this of course would be a super long shot but how weird if it's him!! Both Roy and Harris are not uncommon names. Paula


Julie Report 15 Aug 2007 16:21

Just nudging so that we don't lose this tale xx


Shirley Report 15 Aug 2007 14:58



Caz Report 15 Aug 2007 12:46

nudging back to the top. Caz


Aussiegirl Report 15 Aug 2007 11:39

Fantastic story.. nudging so that I can find it again..and keep up.. Mary


Karen Report 15 Aug 2007 10:18

n for later

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Deb needs a change Report 15 Aug 2007 10:16



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Geordie Report 14 Aug 2007 22:35

nudging to finish reading later aah how sad hope you find some family for her!


Paul Report 14 Aug 2007 22:02

Hello All, Maggie, thanks for the information about “MY LIFE MY WAR” By Bernard Hallas. I’ll have not read it all yet but it does look interesting. I thought the best thing to do now is to give an update. Finding out all about Patricia and her family was not likely to be that easy or quick. I think that to date, we have all done very well. There is bound to be down time while waiting for certificates and or email replies and also following up leads which may or may not be dead ends. Win will be searching the Parish Archives on Thursday and I hope the records of the Cardiff Rural District minutes, June 1943 are available for me to view tomorrow at the GRO. Roy Harris who I have been trying to contact is living in America. He is the grandson of Arthur Harris and was over here visiting recently. While visiting he did search for Patricia's grave but I don't think he found it. Again, we believe that Patricia’s friend is still in contact with him. Win will tell her next time they speak that we are trying to contact him. He will also ask if she or Roy has a photo of Patricia so a face can be put to her name. Again many thanks for all your help, encouragement and interest shown. “She is not alone” Bye for now. Paul


Paula Report 14 Aug 2007 21:53

I just thought the same thing! How about those Harris Boys? Although they might not want to recall such a shocking time in their lives either. This story is so interesting and I am checking back frequently!! Patricia seems to have found a place in all our hearts!!


Louise Report 14 Aug 2007 21:03

OOw and what about the family she was staying with? The two boys might still be around now?


Louise Report 14 Aug 2007 20:58

Any news on who owned/paid for the burial plot and gravestone?