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Help with strange surname/writting please

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Daniel

Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 20:28

I sent off for a birth certificate to find a mothers maiden name, the problem is the surname is very strange, here is a zoom in on it

Here's a link

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb59/paynie123/Birth-RhodaAnnBenton.jpg

The person who has wrote this curles the "l"s at the end of other words so I think the surname is Tempill nor Tempilly

The problem is there is no Tempill where she is from (Wentworth, Yorkshire) and nearly no Tempill in any census at all, so I think it is miss-spelt. Also if you look closely something (maybe initials) is written underneath. Does this mean anything?

What surname do you think it might be?

Her first name is Eliza, can anybody find any info at all of an Eliza Tempill or Eliza Tempil? (born in c1881), married a James Benton c1803. (I have her on census married as Eliza Benton)

Any help would be greatly appretiated.

Mumsy

Mumsy Report 4 Sep 2007 20:45

Could it be Timpilly or Tanpilly?

Mumsy.

Sam

Sam Report 4 Sep 2007 20:46

What date is the birth certificate and whose is it? Can you just confirm the dates as you say she was born 1881 but married someone born 1803?

Sam x

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 20:47

Daniel, I'm a little confused with the dates.

Eliza is born in 1881.

You have her marrying in 1803.

You have her on a census.


Which date do you mean & which census?

Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 20:51

Is this who you mean & born 1811?

1861:
Name: Eliza Benton
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Wentworth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish or Township: Llantwit Fardre
Ecclesiastical parish: Glyntaff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: Graig (I think)

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Llantrisaint
ED, institution, or vessel: [17]
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 217
Household Members: Name Age
James Benton 58
Eliza Benton 50
Rhoda Benton 17

June

June Report 4 Sep 2007 20:59

1871 wales for ref

Name: Eliza Benton
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Wentworth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Llantwit Fardre
Ecclesiastical parish: Glyn taf
Town: Pontypridd
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Llantrisant
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 213
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Benton 63
James Benton 69
Jane Nowell 21
Llewellyn Powell 4
Mary Powell 2


June x

Daniel

Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 21:12

Yeah sorry guys 1811, you both got her. I find her when she's married as Benton, but nothing for Tempill, Temple, Tempil, Tempilly ahhhh

Daniel

Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 21:15

James Benton was 1803, I don't know when they married but sometime just before 1845 as that is when there firstborn was born.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 21:16

Daughter Rhoda/Rodah married a John Clothier in 1865 but I can't find her before 1861.

Daniel

Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 21:21

thanks guys can any body find a Eliza marring a James Benton anywhere? I could get the marriage cert for that then

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 21:22

Still trying Daniel, don't give up.

Ozi.

Joan

Joan Report 4 Sep 2007 21:32

Tempest ?????

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 21:36

Temperley???

Joan

Joan Report 4 Sep 2007 21:37

who is their oldest child ?

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2007 21:40

Was Rhoda the only child?

Have you found James & Eliza in 1841?

Reg

Daniel

Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 21:44

Reggie I haven't nor 1851

Daniel

Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 21:49

reggie I think she was, I haven't found any siblings, then again I haven't found her parents marriage, so if it pre-dated 1837 that would mean they went at least 8 yeas before having her so i just don't know

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2007 21:50

Did they have any other children?

If so, why not try sending for the bc for one of those in the hope that it hs better handwriting??



OR ................................is it possible that they never actually married?????

Daniel

Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 21:50

jean i have seen no other children

Daniel

Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 21:52

sylvia, maybe they didn't marry, I have looked for any surnames in Wentworth which look/sound like even remotely like tempil and there are none there