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Help with strange surname/writting please

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SylviaInCanada Report 5 Sep 2007 00:50

a possibility for James in 1841????

Name: James Benton
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Portsmouth Town
Hundred: Portsmouth Borough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsmouth Town

He's a Private Soldier, Royal Marine Barracks, born "out of county"


SylviaInCanada Report 5 Sep 2007 00:44

If that is the correct death registration for James that ozibird found, then it explains the name of the son born in 1843 in Devon!

I'd also love to hear what you finally find out about Eliza's surname!!



Ozibird Report 5 Sep 2007 00:16

Lovely. It would be great to have that follow-up.

Gotta go & do some work now.

At least you're a little further along the track!



Daniel Report 5 Sep 2007 00:06

Thank you Ozbird, just google earthed her address from the 1881 census and her great,great grandchild (my great aunt) lives about 3/4 of a mile away.

I'm off to bed now, when I get the birth cert of other children I will message you and tell you what her maiden name realy is Temple, Tempill, Tempil, Tempilly etc...


Daniel Report 5 Sep 2007 00:00

Ozbird you are a genius, well done. I just had a look, living with an old couple, thankyou Ozbird you have been excellent, and excellent help


Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 23:55

Have you got this one?

Name: Lizzie Benton
Age: 74
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Wentworth, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Llantwit Vairdre
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: 88 Richard St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)

Occupation: Formerly Cook

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Llantrisant
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Jenkins 77
Harriet Jenkins 75
Lizzie Benton 74


Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 23:54

can't see her on 1881, but that death cert is definatley correct


Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 23:50

Thanks for the info Gwyneth and Ozbird, but looking at the 1871 & 1861 census has him from Middlesex, so that 1851 census, although correct his place of birth has just been dito'd from the family above, so not ireland.


Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 23:49

If this is your Eliza she should be on 1881.

Deaths Sep 1888
Benton Eliza 81 Pontypridd 11a 196


Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 23:47

Deaths Dec 1879
Benton James Nathaniel 78 St. Olave 1d 217

Death cert's don't usually have where they are from. Also the information you get on a death cert is as good as the knowledge of the person registering the death.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 4 Sep 2007 23:44

His death certificate will only have his address at the time of death...and place of death, if different.

Only since 1969? have death certificates included place of birth.



Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 23:38

Ozbird, that mariage for Jane is the correct one, as it has David Powell on the same page


Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 23:34

James would have died between the 1861 and 1871 census, probably in wales


Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 23:34

Jsut had a thought, James Benton's death cert should have where he is from, is this correct?


Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 23:32

Reggie found a few of Rhoda's brothers and sisters so great there, i can get their birth certs for morthers maiden name. Can't find James or Eliza in 1841 though, we found them in 1851 for definate, but it says that James is born in Ireland but I think that is a mistake, they seem to have just dito'd from the family above. Would really need to find the 1841 census for James Benton for definate he could be born 1804 or there abouts


Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 23:30

Yes. I wonder about her (Jane) age as she would've married about 15-16 years of age. Not impossible of course.

I put the marriage index in a previous posting. His name was David. I cannot find her in any other census or the grandchildren in later census.



Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 23:27

Usually the mother isn't mentioned.

It's the birth cert you need but I can't find her.



Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 23:26

just seen jane born in Breconshire, that family have been in about 6 different places


Daniel Report 4 Sep 2007 23:24

Thankyou Ozbird

Name: Jane Benton
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 391 (click to see others on page)

Thats Jane's marriage, would that have mothers maden name on the cert?


Ozibird Report 4 Sep 2007 23:17

I'm still trying to follow Jane. Bear with me.

Deaths Mar 1868
POWELL David 35 Pontypridd 11a 213

This may be her husband.

Update: The Jane I mean is their daughter in 1871 with grandchildren Llewellyn & Mary.