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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 30,643 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:33
	Daniel, again a common misunderstanding on the censuses seems to be, census taker asks "where are you from?" Person answers with where they last came from, not birthplace!! Sylvia
	Researching: Brigg Flatts Meeting House, Sedbergh, Cumbria. Built 1674/75 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 30,643 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:33
	it was all done just to confound us!!!
	Researching: Brigg Flatts Meeting House, Sedbergh, Cumbria. Built 1674/75 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	Daniel	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:33
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	I'm thinking that there was a lot of anti-irish in those times so he may have lied about being Irish in the later census I have
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	Daniel	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:35
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	I'm going to ring my grandfather, he's Irish, he will love the fact that his wife had some irish in her
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 30,643 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:35
	daniel, re the link, I typed it into my browser ............... i209 wouldn't work. 209.photobucket etc got me to the right site, but wouldn't let me see anything! Sylvia
	Researching: Brigg Flatts Meeting House, Sedbergh, Cumbria. Built 1674/75 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: August 2004 Posts: 1,333 Send Message	Joan	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:36
	I've lost the plot. I am convinced that Sylvia has it. so I will sit back and watch. I can't even find the 1871 census.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 30,643 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:36
	ozibird .................... .....................aw! I thought I was doing so well!!
	Researching: Brigg Flatts Meeting House, Sedbergh, Cumbria. Built 1674/75 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 30,643 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:38
	yep, everyhting seems to fit, except James occupation. Mind you, I did someone this mroning who went from Master Cordwainer to Ag Lab to Colliery Banksman on 3 successive censuses. So not unknown to change occupations. Sylvia
	Researching: Brigg Flatts Meeting House, Sedbergh, Cumbria. Built 1674/75 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: August 2004 Posts: 1,333 Send Message	Joan	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:38
	I think the Irish element has come ad a ditto from the entry above James on the 1851.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 30,643 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:44
	so was that laziness on the part of the census taker, lack of knowledge on the part of the person giving the information, or accurate?????
	Researching: Brigg Flatts Meeting House, Sedbergh, Cumbria. Built 1674/75 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,221 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:46
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,221 Send Message	Is it Rhoda or Jane's birth cert you have?
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	Daniel	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:46
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	yeah, actually don't think he's Irish, the guy doind the census is lazy with all the initials
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,221 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:47
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,221 Send Message	Or was that what he was given?
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 30,643 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:47
	Lovely, I've never seen this exact phrasing before! On the 1861 Wales Census James is described as Teacher of the 1st Rudiments of Learning and Rhoda is Assistant do
	Researching: Brigg Flatts Meeting House, Sedbergh, Cumbria. Built 1674/75 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	Daniel	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:50
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	yeah , what exactly does the 1st rudiments mean? I should now with a bit of luck find the birth cert of one of the other children to get the mothers maiden name oz i have Rhoda's birth cert currently.
Member Since: August 2004 Posts: 1,333 Send Message	Joan	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:51
	I would be tempted to go for the birth cert of James Nathaniel born 1842 in Plymouth. Good luck I am off to bed now, Joan
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 30,643 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:53
	I would guess the ABCs or what we might call kindergarten or maybe the first couple of years of school. which could mean that he wasn't actually fully educated (ie, university trained to teach latin, science or whatever). so he could have had a change of occupation when they moved to Wales. After all, who would know him in Llantwit Fardre?????? sylvia
	Researching: Brigg Flatts Meeting House, Sedbergh, Cumbria. Built 1674/75 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,221 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:54
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,221 Send Message	1st rudiments means the basics. He was an infant teacher.
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	Daniel	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:54
Member Since: July 2007 Posts: 0 Send Message	Found her brothers birth cert i think Name: James Nathaniel Benton Year of Registration: 1842 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Plymouth County: Devon Volume: 9 Page: 385 (click to see others on page)
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,221 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	4 Sep 2007 22:54
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,221 Send Message	Jane's birth cert is the key I think. Ozi.

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