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John Report 30 Nov 2007 21:06

Hi Mary
Yes, could well be, I'm sure Mike will come up with an answer...... can't wait .....
Jon O'Kent

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 30 Nov 2007 22:30

Greeting's John

Knowing this child could be ABRAHAM
re 1851. census returns

So...... My mind could also make out the name Abraham although the upstrokes of the b & h are missing .or faint & the s could be an r
Thus making it Aaron. as Mary O' Italy suggested.

That's why I asked you if you required the scan of this event.

Doubt if the detailed trawl for a sound - a - like
would come to a successful conclusion.
Remember that you are looking at a persons handwriting which can be very hard to understand plus many put the name down as it sounded

Like two of the children's surname had been put down with a J = Jomkins.



John Report 2 Dec 2007 18:07

Greetings Mike
Many thanks for additional comments.
I totally trust your integrity in analizing handwriting hence no scan requested, having transcribed many thousand census and BMD records I fully understand the problem. As far as ASURAN is concerned and having studied the various records my money goes on AMBROSE as the missing link, hopefully, case closed.
Jon O'Kent


faerykingdom Report 2 Dec 2007 23:43


Could somebody please look for a burial for me please? Richard Hamer Wells born 1894 in Donington Street Leicester and died 1897.

Any help would be great,


Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 3 Dec 2007 07:08

Greeting’s & welcome Vicky….

There you Go……..

Welford Road Cemetery. :~

PLOT No. U.Q. 1213.:~
1213 C Dawson Joseph 1867 Jan 9 Aged.40. Palmerston Street Saint Margaret 18121
1213 C England Nellie Maria Turner 1887 Aug 10 3mths. All Saints Road Saint Nicholas 60221
1213 F Lister Harriett 1926 Aug 11 Aged.49. 52 Stuart Street Leicester 115751.
Abv. :~
1213.C. = Common Burial.
1213.F. = Freehold Plot.

Hope this helps.

MIKE. o<] 8 o ))


Charles Report 4 Dec 2007 18:06

Hi all

On a recent visit to Shepshed, I took photos of mainly baptist gravestones (of direct interest to me) which are in the cemetery there. Surnames include:

Rev. Robt Mills d. 1814
William Bentley d. 1773
Thomas Bentley d. 1828
Mary Ann Foston d. 1888
John Kirk d. 1896
Anna Kirk d. 1900
Thomas Bentley d. 1909
Harriett Bentley d. 1919
Elizabeth Ann Kirk d. 1892
Ann Kirk d. 1903
Frances Bentley d. 1911

I would be happy to shre these photos with anyone who has a relevant interest.


Beverly Report 7 Dec 2007 10:23


Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 7 Dec 2007 12:25

*** F.A.O. ***

Mary O’ Italy, Elaine, & Jane O’ Ruff-bra.. .


Alginone here again. ……

Sorry for any delay but we’ve had a few problems here…….

Training of Youthful Reindeer …..” Taco graphs had to be fitted……

Plus new ruling from E.U. Regulations regarding
“Carbon Footprints reading’s” from Rudolph's nose which were too HIGH

We are now pleased to say that both hic up’s have now been resolved


Watch your chimney’s over the next few days….

LOVE. Alginone. XXXX


Alan Report 7 Dec 2007 13:00

I'm trying to find out what happened to Elijah Conway b1852 in Leicester after 1891. He is listed in Leicester Prison during the 1891 census and after this date I can find no records, not even an entry in the GRO death registers (have searched up to 1950).

Any help would be appreciated


MaryfromItaly Report 7 Dec 2007 16:05

Thank you, Santa :-)


MaryfromItaly Report 7 Dec 2007 16:10

Insomnia, I've had a quick look, and I can't find a death for Elijah, or a burial at Welford Road, which is the largest cemetery in Leicester.

Have you tried tracing his wife Catherine to see if that helps?

I found the following marriage - I wonder if it's Elijah's wife remarrying?

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
Conway Catherine Mt. Harbro' 7a 64
Dawes Jane Mt. Harbro' 7a 64
Kirk Benjamin Mt Harbro 7a 64
NEAL William Mt. Harbro' 7a 64

There's a Benjamin Kirk in the 1901 census with a wife Catherine of the right age, who was born in Wigston, like Elijah's wife.

The children with them may be from Benjamin's first marriage - I don't have time to check them out at the moment, but you should find them easily if you have an Ancestry subscription.

If that's Catherine, then Elijah presumably died between 1891 and 1898, which makes it a bit easier to search for his death.


MaryfromItaly Report 7 Dec 2007 16:24

I might have found a clue.

I looked for all Conway deaths in Leicestershire between 1891 and 1898, and there are only 3: Frances aged 78 (Elijah's mother), a baby also called Frances, and this one:

Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
Conway Neil 40 Shardlow 7b 277

There's no matching birth for a Neil Conway.

Neil would have been an extremely unusual name in those days, so I would guess it might be a mistranscription. I've looked at the original image, but unfortunately it's typewritten.

There was a workhouse in Shardlow, which may be significant, as he might have gone there after being released from prison.

Although the age isn't exactly right, I would be tempted to get that death cert, or contact the register office and ask if they can check the Christian name for you.

Willsy once more

Willsy once more Report 7 Dec 2007 18:51

Santa is brill, love to Alginone



Alan Report 10 Dec 2007 08:28

Hello Mary,

Thank you very much for looking up Elijah Conway in the Welford Road burial index for me. Your hunch about his wife remarrying Benjamin Kirk is correct as I know the family moved to this area in the early 1900s.

I am tempted to order a copy of the marriage cert to find out whether she is entered as widowed or divorced (although this may not be 100% reliable!)

The death for Neil Conway that you have found is definately worth considering as this is a really unusual name for the time. I am also considering asking for a search for his death at Leicester register office as I know sometimes records can get 'lost' between the local office and the GRO

Thanks again

Willsy once more

Willsy once more Report 10 Dec 2007 20:11

FAO Alginone

Delivery received


Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 10 Dec 2007 21:00


Alginone here……….

That’s one of three received then…..

Only we’re a bit worried up here in Lapland
SANTA has not yet returned !!!!!

Some thing to do with him & his reindeer's being
Escorted down to ground…… by British Fighter Aircraft. !!!!
and held in the secured compound at R.A.F. Coningsby

Misunderstanding regarding his flight plans
it had been filed for the 24th.
So he was regarded as an U.F.O by Air Traffic Control………

We do hope it’s resolved by the 24th. Then……

Alginone. XXXX


Beverly Report 13 Dec 2007 22:31



faerykingdom Report 13 Dec 2007 22:53

Thank you very much for your help Mike, I don't know whether you could help me with a couple of more things.

Is there any more burials with Hamer Wells or just Hamer in the name at Welford Road between about 1891 - 1910?

And if anybody has access to parish records could you please look up the baptism of a Jane Hamer Wells born in 1895?

Thank you,


Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 14 Dec 2007 13:03

Seasonal Greeting’s Victoria.

Welford Road Cemetery
ALL HAMER Burials. :~

HAMER --- 1855 Aug 22 Stbn Jarrom Street Saint Mary Uo 538 C U3359 Child Of John
HAMER --- 1880 Dec 9 Stbn Brierley Street Saint Margaret Us 2997 C U45919 Child Of Ann
HAMER --- 1885 Oct 19 Stbn Brierley Street Saint Margaret Uq 238 C U56418 Child Of Mary Ann
HAMER --- 1887 Aug 12 Stbn Brierley Street Saint Margaret Uq 175 C U60244 Child Of Mary Ann
HAMER Alfred 1905 Sep 12 59 23 Upperton Road Leicester Ut 2439 F U94745
HAMER Catherine Ann 1908 Nov 24 89 Rothley Leicestershire Ul 237 F U96965
HAMER Edwin 1909 Apr 10 44 48 Lorne Road Leicester Ua 933 F U97249
HAMER Edwin 1935 Aug 8 72 Royal Infirmary / 22 Dunton Street Leicester Co 1407 F C65852
HAMER Francis 1896 Jun 8 10mths Albion Street Leicester Cn 1508 C C38813
HAMER Henry 1860 Nov 8 16 Belgrave Gate Saint Margaret Ul 237 S U9166
HAMER Ivy 1909 Mar 31 12hrs 67 Orson Street Leicester Ua1 337 C U97232
HAMER James 1855 Sep 12 1yr 10mths Jarrom Street Saint Mary Uo 184 C U3409
HAMER James 1887 May 11 59 Leicester Union House Saint George Cn 849 C C28455
HAMER John 1866 Mar 5 3 (In A Waggon) Belgrave Road Saint Margaret Up 1677 C U16844
HAMER Joseph Ronald 1898 Oct 21 7mths Birstall Street Leicester Ua 933 F U84259
HAMER Leonard 1884 Aug 21 6mths Brierley Street Saint Margaret Ur 638 C U53720
HAMER Louisa 1921 Oct 24 58 North Evington Infirmary Leicester Ub 761 F U110351
HAMER Mary Ann 1883 Jul 11 4mths Brierley Street Saint Margaret Us 981 C U51401
HAMER Matthew 1866 Feb 19 9mths (A Waggon) Humberstone Gate Saint Margaret Up 1677 C U16779
HAMER Ronald Edwin 1895 Jul 17 8mths Birstall Street Saint Margaret Ua 933 Cf U77034 Common Interment In Freehold Grave
HAMER Ruth Eveline 1890 Mar 12 4mths Brierley Street Saint Margaret Ur 638 C U65590
HAMER Sarah 1916 Nov 16 68 94 Belgrave Gate Leicester Uf 34 C U103692
HAMER Selina 1937 Oct 30 77 2 Swain Street / 22 Montague Road Leicester Ur1 1278 F U124769
HAMER Susannah 1913 Sep 16 67 48 Leicester Street Leicester Ut 2439 F U100388
HAMER William 1871 Jun 27 23 Lower Brunswick Street Saint George Ul 237 F U26238
HAMER William 1891 Jan 24 72 Belgrave Leicestershire Ul 237 F U67411
HAMER William 1921 May 9 66 69 Humberstone Gate Leicester Ur1 1278 C U109873
HAMER William Frederick 1901 Nov 1 45 Watling Street Leicester Cn 781 C C46541
HAMER Zillah 1903 Aug 5 1day 28 Agar Street Leicester Ut 354 C U93054

If you wish for more details on any of the above
then post the ones you want with the ref. No’s


10-Apr 1859 Mary Ann Hamer William & Esther
10-Apr 1859 Rosannah Hamer William & Esther
07-Jul 1820 William Hamer Mary (Widow)

14-Jul 1826 Jane Wells John & Mary
27-Oct 1873 Jane Wells Edward & Frances


G.R.O.Site...... Confirmation of Birth :~

Jan. ~ Feb. ~ Mar. Qrt. 1896.

Jane. Hamer. Wells.
Cert. No. 7a. 188.

The above should give you both the parents names
plus Mothers maiden name

1901. Census Returns :~
RG 13. / 3006. / 91. / Page. 23.

Formally St. Margaret's
St. George's Parish.
Back of No. 38. Colton Street.

Jane Wells. WID. 47. Laundress. b Leicester.
Jane H. Daughter 5. b Leicester.

Phoebe Hanson. Boarder. Sing. 34. Shirt Seamer. b Birmingham Warwickshire.


Gillian Report 14 Dec 2007 15:02

Hi Mike

I could really do with some help - have hit a brick wall.

I am trying to find the ancestors (starting with the parents of:
Humphrey Greasley:
Christening: 25 DEC 1583 Quorndon, Leicester, England
Father: William Greasley Family

Spouse: Dorothy Hynde Family
Marriage: 03 OCT 1602 Quorndon, Leicester, England

Cant find anything on the Quorndon marriage register prior to 1606 for a William Greasley. Cant find anything for William on any searches - anywhere.

Any ideas?
Many thanks