General Chat

Ben, Have you tried all the variants of their surname?
Auber, Aubre, Anber, Anbre, ouber, Onber.

What else could it be? Difficult to mis-read Emma.
Clara could be Clare, Edwin could be Eddie. or they could be down as C, E and E Auber. Have you tried all these?

Ann
Glos

Shelli, If he was at sea his family should be at home. if the ship was in dock it should have been part of the census. Do you know which port he was based in (i.e.where the family would live.)

Can you give the names (again if you did before) and their dates/places of birth. So we can help look.


Ann
Glos

Ann

no idea abour ports. just stabbing in the dark really. On the marriage cert in 1898 occupation is given as petty officer RN

Oh just thought i did download his service record brb

Ann

27 June 1900 - 12 Feb 1904 he was PO 1cl onboard Repluse, no mention of a port. Apart from the top of the page which states Chatham

Could be he was based in Chatham then. what is his name and date/place of birth

Hi Ann

I have just tried your suggestions. Still to no avail. I really would love to find her.

Ben

don't fret Ben we will keep trying.. I will have another go tomorrow. maybe Susan will be looking in later and will have a go she is better at it than me. I am off to bed now.

Ann
Glos

Sorry Ann just re read your message and realised you wanted details just dug them out.

Robert William DAYMAN 26 Mar 1898 Union Workhouse Sundridge Kent
Phyllis Rosetta LEACH 28 Feb 1875 Knockholt Kent
Robery LEACH born ????? according to marrage cert in Jul 1898 he was 27 so c1871 and the service record I found for Robert Leach states him born 15 Oct 1871 Uffculme Devon

Shelli I will look tomorrow for them Off to bed now.

Ann
Glos

Oh Ann

Just realised I may have another mystery on my hands....... Phyllis re marries sept 1/4 1911 (currently awaiting cert dispatch date 20th) I assumed Robert had died. But just re-reading his service record he is in service until 1927...oh this is getting good LOL

thanks Ann

xxxxx

Hi
Sorry to have been unhelpful. Alice Simms seems missing from cencus so have guessed she was born between them. Her parents were Robert Lyons Sims born 4.10.1810 in Dover and her mother Phoene nee Quick born in Poplar in circa 1830. They seem to have always lived in the London area. The child before Alice was Phoebe was born in 1867. I know that later on Alice became a general servant but I cannot find her on a cencus, she just seems to have been born and disappeared until the 1890's when I know she was living with my great grandmother.

Ann

Phyllis and Robert DID divorce in 1908.
Found details on Naional Archives. Just gotta work out how to get the details now lol. Although I do know the co-respondant is Albert Ernest Parsons aka Albert Ernest Streeter.

nudging this up because I want to have a look at the latest ones.

Ann
Glos

Shelli

Robert Leach
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Petty Officer 1 Cl (Officer)
Gender: Male
Where born: Uffculme, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Gibraltar
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Royal Navy at Sea and in Ports Abroad
Sub registration district: RN Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: Repulse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Leach 29


He is a widower so Phyllis must have died pre 1901.

Ann
Glos

Shelli, I can't find Robert anywhere in the 1901. Is the name Dayman from his Mother's previous name or was he adopted. Is there anything else you know about him that would help to locate him in 1901. He is not still in the workhouse and I can't find him under Leach either. I have tried all the variants of Dayman and also trawled all through the likely names.


Can you think of anything else?


And I don't understand why, if I can find the marriage between Robert Leach and Phyllis Rosetta Dayman Sept quarter 1898 reg district Tunbridge 2a 1365
And Robert is a widower in the 1901 census. why can't i find a death for Phyllis?


Just seen your post that says they divorced in 1908. Why does he call himself a widower then in 1901. back to the drawing board.

do you know if Albert had any other alias? And do you know what occupation he had. Just wondering if she was 'philandering' before 1908.
Ann
Glos

I suppose my best bet for the elusive Florence Whittlesea is to go look at Baptisms in the Parish Registers which I presume would be kept in whichever Records Office nearest to Marylebone??
Aaahh well, that'll have to wait now until my next trip home. I'm going back to the desert on Sat.

K

Always a problem with the London/middlesex ones karen isn't there. Did you ever get that cyst removed?

I cant find my fathers John Morrow birth cert anywhere in the North of Ireland but he states on my mum and his marriage cert he was born in Newtownards county Down N.Ireland and states his parents names also Thomas and Agnes Morrow she was nee Coulter but no trace of them to be found in any churches or BDMs..They were protestants!

Whoosh!! all gone just like that and all during the 20th century unbelievable!!! Help!!!


Tricia

Hopefully somebody with an understanding of Irish records will look in and suggest a solution Tricia.

ann
Glos