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Kathleen Report 28 Jun 2010 13:34

Got g/father 1885 born in Hackney to John Harris & Elizabeth Atkins Married in Islington I know when he was born & married & he had 4 daughters Florance May 1910 Elizabeth 13/12/1911, Dudley Ethel 20th/06/1914 London & my mother 28/10/1919.London. I found Ethel born in London Elizabeth in Dudley & my mum in Whitechaple London I cant find any think eles about him He was a soldier when he married in May 1915 in Islington London were he went after he came home from war i dont knowwere he went how do i find this out


Lindsey* Report 28 Jun 2010 13:54

who did he marry Kathleen ?


JaneyCanuck Report 28 Jun 2010 14:04

Kathleen, you put a post on Records Office a few days ago:

I think a problem might have been that readers weren't really sure what you were looking for. It is wise to put as much info in your post as you have and be specific about what you're looking for.

There's a rule at this site that a request should be posted only once. Otherwise, different people may spend (waste) time doing the same research.

You should go back to that thread and add a message to it explaining what you know and what you would like help with.

Click on "My threads" over on the left of your monitor and that will find you a list of the messages you have posted. Click on that other one, then click on the purple "Reply" button up at the top of it, to open the box for adding a message.

When you do that, your request will move up to the top of the list and hopefully someone seeing it will be able to offer some help.

It's also wise to pay careful attention to spelling, when it comes to names. In this post, you have called him both Harris and Harries. It seems Harris is correct.

edit - I have no idea why I thought that thread was a few days ago! It was from 2007. Anyway, I added a post to it. ;)


Kathleen Report 29 Jun 2010 22:47

Elizabeth Atkins form Shoreditch in london her father was a woodchooper which means she was 27 when married.

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 29 Jun 2010 23:08

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Elizabeth Atkins
Name: Elizabeth Atkins
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Spouse Name: John Henry Harris (soldier)
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 May 1915
Parish: St Anne, Poole's Park
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Napoleon John Atkins
Spouse Father Name: John Henry Harris


ChristineinPortugal Report 29 Jun 2010 23:16

If some of the children were born before the marriage they may be registered as Atkins.


Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 29 Jun 2010 23:17

I also have some military records for him that are confirmed by his wife's name and the date and place of marriage....if you would like the images please PM me with an email address.

Name: John Henry Harris
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Age at Enlistment: 30
Residence: 18 Morning Lane, Hackney London
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: ??189
Regiment Name: Battn Middx R??
Number of Images: 4

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 29 Jun 2010 23:19

add the three eldest are named there also,

Florence May 22/1/10

Ethel 26/10/14

Elizabeth 13/12/11

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 29 Jun 2010 23:32

Likely ..John henry senior is a boot finisher on this ...boot maker on the marriage cert

1891 England Census
about John H Harris
Name: John H Harris
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John H
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, London, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: Homerton St Barnabas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:


Condition as to marriage:


Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John H Harris 25
Eliza Harris 27
John H Harris 6
Louisa Harris 4
William Harris 1
Archibald G Hunt 20


Kathleen Report 8 Nov 2010 04:47

Ihave cerf; for 3 & all in Harris 1 cant find but have dateof birth off grandads army papers


JaneyCanuck Report 8 Nov 2010 07:21

Kathleen, it's best to click on Rambling Rose's name and send her a private message (PM) with your email address, and use the "Edit" link in the post above this one to delete it from your message. Yours doesn't disclose personal info like your name and location the way some email addresses do, but it's generally wise not to post an email address publicly on the internet, for fear of spam if nothing else. ;)


JaneyCanuck Report 8 Nov 2010 07:39

Just for ref for us, your mum's birth:

Births Dec 1919
Harris Kathleen Atkins Whitechapel 1c 406

Do you know where and when her mother Elizabeth died?

There's info in the military records that Rambling Rose will point out to you and you can post here if you like.

Just a note that if Elizabeth were widowed or estranged from John after 1915, she might have registered your mum's birth in his name, even if he wasn't the father. These things did happen even then, and especially in wartime.

There isn't a single death for a John H Harris born about 1885 in England/Wales up to 1969, but there are a couple for a John Henry Harris after 1969 (when full names were included in the index).

This is his birth.

Births Sep 1885
Harris John Henry Hackney 1b 502

but there isn't a death that matches that birth. You have the certificate to confirm that it is the right birth? Can you tell us his exact date of birth?


JaneyCanuck Report 8 Nov 2010 07:56

[deleted and added to the previous post to keep together on same page]


Kathleen Report 17 Aug 2013 15:20

I am sorry I am still learning how to get massagers on here & how to use it still cant do so you can see my tree :-(