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Jax, What I wrote above only relevant to the original post/conversation because it appeared others were mixing two different families. I will start a new discussion for my friend's family.
Glynne

Glynne

Has this got anything to do with the original post?

If not you should start your own thread on the find ancestors board or living reletives if it is the decendants you are looking for.

Hi to everyone on this conversation. I'm looking at Eliza Ann Thompson born in Bruton, Somerset. I'm looking at a friend's family so not related myself. I feel I am on the correct lines with Henry Victor Thompson (my friend's father) born to Eliza Ann Thompson (d/o Henry and Harriet Thompson). Henry living with Grandmother in 1901 census, and Eliza has gone to Surrey to work as a servant. I also feel certain that it is this Eliza who marries Moses Ayling and has Elsie, Leslie and Timothy before the 1911 census. My friend would love to find later generations of this family so please contact me if you know of any children.
Glynne

I'm researching back from Henry Victor Thompson as he is my friend's father. He was born to ElizaThompson in 1896 and appears in 1901 census with his grandmother (and a cousin as well) and Eliza appears to have gone to London, worked as a servant (1901 census) and then married Moses John Ayling. They appear to have had 4 children and I'd be interested to hear from them. Please contact me with any imformation.

Mary,

He looks to be Harry Thompson in 1911.

Rose

I can't find Henry Victor thompson in 1911 his gran Harriet Thompson is in institution/Hospital.
He was in East Yorks reg in 1913 .
He died in Yoevil 1975.

Maryb.

Children with Moses:

Births Dec 1901
AYLING Elsie Maud Guildford 2a 77

Births Dec 1903
Ayling Leslie John Chertsey 2a 66

Births Dec 1905
Ayling Timothy Reginald Chertsey 2a 60

Rose

Seems like that could be her.

Someone called Tony looks to have Henry in his tree on here. Has him born Wincanton though.

Rose

The Eliza Ann above was born 1875 in Bruton Somerset.
1901 Send Ripley Surrey D1 > 18 she was a housemaid.
A tree on Ancestry has her on and states she had son Henry Victor Thomson in Somerset 13/10/1896.

Her parents were Henry Thompson 1832 Someset and harriett 1841.
Henry Victor thompson with Harriett in 1901.

Maryb.

Here's a marriage very close to Woking:

Marriages Jun 1901
Ayling Moses John Chertsey 2a 87
Thompson Eliza Ann Chertsey 2a 87

Rose

So we know now that Matilda who married George lee was a certified midwife so maybe she delivered Gladys.

Maryb.

Ah, thank you Mary. I will look into this further at a later date. (I'm in the middle of an OU degree course at present and need to concentrate on completing this instead of being distracted!!) :-( I keep "dipping" into family history when I should be composing my next essay. lol

So her dad given as Gibson Lee the surname of the two families she was with 1901Fred Gibson 1911 George Lee.

Frederick W Gibson married Louisa kellow in 1893.She was born Wiltshire 1869/70.

1891 Woking D2 > 15
Louisa Kellow at George lee born 1843 the same person as Gladys is with 1911
Also here is a Fred Lee son age 18.So is this Frederick W Gibson!!!!

1911 4,Spencer St Boundary Road.
Frederick W Gibson is now Gibson-Lee
Louisa Gibson-Lee
Gertrude Annie Gibson-Lee 1896 died 1920
William Charles Gibson-Lee 1898 died 18/91918 parents at 171,Boundary Rd at time of his death.
Reginald George Gibson-Lee 1902
Dorothy May Gibson-Lee 1904

George lee married Matilda Gibson A/M/J 1874 in Chertsey
Matilda Gibson born 1856 reg Chertsey
She had Frederick William Gibson 1873 he became Gibson-lee.

Matilda lee in 1891
Horsall Surrey D 2 > 17 down as servant but actually on original staes she is a certified midwife.

Maryb.

Um, to answer your questions in order:

The father's name on the granny's marriage certificate is Gibson Lee.
I can find no trace of Eliza either in1881 or 1891 or 1901 or 1911. There are several Eliza Annie Thompsons in the births but because I don't know where she came from, I've no idea which would be correct.

As an indication, my mum's dad's mother(!) met and married my great-grandad in Buckinghamshire, but actually came from Liverpool.
As far as Eliza is concerned like someone said a needle in a haystack!!!! I shall keep dipping in and out of Genes Reunited, so thank you all for the time being. :-) :-) :-)

Does Gladys give a father´s name on her marriage cert?
I presume she doesn´t.
Do you have any idea where Eliza went after the birth?

For Ref:-

Address: 4, Boundary Villas, Boundary Road, Woking

County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GIBSON, Frederick W Head Married M 28 1873 Corn Dealer & Salesman
Chertsey, Surrey
GIBSON, Louisa Wife Married F 31 1870
Codford, Wiltshire
GIBSON, Gertrude A Daughter F 4 1897
Woking, Surrey
GIBSON, William C Son Single M 2 1899
Woking, Surrey
HEAD, Alice Sister-In-Law Married F 29 1872 Wife Of Reservist Abroad
Codford, Wiltshire

Occupants of Boundary Villas in 1901, haven't found 1891.

Hello all,

Found the birth certificate for Gladys Florence Thompson :-) (granny). It states that Eliza Annie Thompson (HOUSEMAID) was the mother and she lived at 4 Boundary villas, Boundary Road, Woking. Registered 1st December 1898. Granny's birthday was actually 26th October 1898, so it's a bit of surprise that it took over a month to register the birth! :-|

Thank you all for your suggestions.

As I said above, I got granny's mother's name from the birth register up in London, but it was late in the day and they were wanting to close up so we had to leave before I could investigate further. However, I will check my family certificates - don't think I've got a full certificate for granny, so perhaps I will have to order this as my next move.
Carole

a bit of a needle in a haystack I think without more info on Eliza/Anne.

Presume you haven't got Gladys birth cert ?? It may have a home address on it for the mum that can checked on the 1901 census

or this one

Name: Annie Thompson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Barnes
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:general servant

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Mortlake
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Piece: 679
Folio: 89
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
May O Crutcher 69
Rosaline A Crutcher 47
Marion A Parker 33
Marjorie Parker 3
Dorothy R Parker 2
Gwendoline R Parker 1
Annie Thompson 30
Edwin Pitt 25

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 679; Folio: 89; Page: 21.