General Chat

John


I THINK that many of your comments are made "tongue in cheek", and that you are a wind-up merchant.

.............. or possibly even due to the fact that you are first writing in a foreign language, and then depending on a translator to post on English (as said by you on another thread on another Board).


May I suggest that if this is so, you begin to use the emoticons (found below the Add Your reply box), to indicate that this is indeed the case.

Yu have a wide choice of emoticons to use to indicate you are not being serious ........... :-) :-0 :-P ;-) or even :-D


Otherwise, your comments may possibly be misinterpreted and taken seriously.

You have already been accused (including by myself) of being patronising ................... others may consider some of your remarks abusive, or offensive, and may then report you as being offensive or abusive.

That may not be such a laugh as the RR'ing of your first post (OP for Opening Post) on this thread over Sunday night/Monday morning.

You will be threatened with a ban or removal from the site if such behaviour continues.




BTW ................... I have only ever reported posts a few times in my time on this site, and always for offensive, racist or homophobic comments. Anything else is fair play in discussions. However, some people do report any dissenting opinions to their own.





sylvia

I have looked back at how I started my thread and what I said - "I don't like the new tree" in responce to GR saying they had had a lot of positive feedback.

Was I so naive to hope that people would give their opinion - and possibly their reasons. I was expecting a lot to say they didn't like it and a few to say they did. But I was willing to listen and learn.

I think some of you have tried to wind me up, and too often I have responded. Now I am being blamed for going off topic. I think a percentage of the blame lies with me - but I really did not want a debate about my retail example - it was simply to emphasise a point I was making and was not intended for debate. The retail offer in the UK is fantastic, and this is widely recognised throughout the world. Something the UK should be very proud of. We spend less on food as a percentage of income (substantially less) than the 1950's when shops sold exotic fruit called oranges, lemons, and bananas (sic) and you had to take a list and ask the shopkeeper for Carnation Milk and he would fetch it from a shelf and place it with your order in a cardboard box. Within 30 years we had a massively increased variety of food at much cheaper prices. Fresh plaice every day of the year, raspberries every day of the year. Parrot fish flown daily from the Seychelles and very affordable. And state of the art equipment and computer systems. And it has continued to improve since I left retail in 1996. Yes, I have problems as a customer with queues, rude staff etc the same as anyone else - but it is still the best retail industry in the world and is the one that other countries try to copy.

I was not expecting anyone to challenge my knowledge of retail, which was gained in 35 years of management in 2 major retail companies, from the shop floor to the boardroom. It was a shock and, I thought, quite unnecessary. I would not dream of telling a Principal Nursing Officer that he or she knew nothing about the NHS. I felt I was being attacked for anything I wrote. If I wrote black is black, I would have expected a couple to write no, black is white just to argue with me.

I have already acknowledged that everyone argued well for their opinion about the new tree (for and against) and I learned quite a lot.

I wish the Welsh and Australian threads al the best but not the type of thing I am interested in or want to contribute to. Not my scene at all - sorry if I have offended anybody. That certainly was not my intention. In fact, I seem to have offended more people by my perceived rudeness in a few days on here than I have in the rest of my life. I honestly cannot remember being called rude, patronising and all the other things thrown at me ever before. Most would describe me as charming, intelligent and erratic (on my school report), caring, concerned for others etc. My children think I am cool and a Ledge, whatever that means.

:-D :-D :-D,

John ,,,,,,,,,you are a card,,,,,,,,

infact you write like your almost feeling soory for yourself.....dont do that for gawd sake.......bow and scrape and only post what others want to allow you to wont win you any favours

if your being come down hard on.....just return it,,,,,,every member is equal in membership on this site,regardlesss of how long they have been members,infact long memberships seem to have notions they wear a I command badge,,,,,, ;-) ;-) :-D :-D,

anyway have you entered the new jungle tree,,,,,,or are you just plain stubbon for change. :-D

Kay

I have tried to use this new tree but it just does not suit me at all. So I will not be putting any more on it. :-(

I am hoping GR will reinstate old tree as an option, then none of us have any problems. Yes, I know they have stated they will not, but I think possibly they will.

I would like to continue to contribute to genealogy threads, but life is too short for all this social networking - for me anyway. I can see it is a lifeline for those without much of a life for whatever reason, and I can see many enjoy it and make good friends.

I intend to leave this thread now. It has been an experience - but I have been very disappointed with some remarks. And quite upset at times. I wonder if sometimes we all hit the send key too quickly , me included.

My highlight was being RR'd. I did enjoy that. I think I know the reason, which was technical. And very, very petty.

I may get banned - in which case that will take pride of place on my cv and my eventual obituary (planned for about 2053 when I shall be quite old). :-D

Let me hold the door open for your departure John, all good shop girls do that for the 'management' :-D

Au Revoir.

John, I don't know if you have noticed but it has become apparent (to me) over the last week that the members who appear most happy with the new tree are using Google Chrome

Just my observations ;-)

Roy

see talk about make you feel welcome.

someones kicking you out the door and someone feels its ok to call you a saddo.........it all 'appens here tha knows.

Bye for now John,,,hope you return for your next educational experience of a chat board or forum or which ever you feel it is......

I held the door open Kay, not kicked John through it :-D

Argggg-------

its only cause you was standing like a stork Rose I thought you was poised...... ;-) :-D :-D

Love ‘em or hate ‘em, there is a place for everyone on these boards, which really need more members to post to keep them ‘alive’.

I hope John reconsiders his decision and at least uses his research experience to help others on look-up threads if nothing else.

For problems with GR it has become clear ( to me ) you will have no other option but to use the Google Chrome browser

Vista and all is well.

Perhaps its the older versions of IE which are having problems.

Hi

I was a bit sadden to see John feels like he won't be back ...it is such a shame to loose what looks like to me a very good genealogist.
I followed him the other night on a Thread .....very knowledgeable .

I go on the boards every day and I see long time members/Helpers being Rude and obnoxious to newbies and just anyone asking for help all the time

ie;its free on BMD go look your self.
have you checked this site or that site
have you looked for your self .

Why is it no one has a go at them.

Well what do you think the boards are here for ,they are there for people to ask for help because they don't know how or where to look next.
In John's case he simply put up a Thread like a lot of us have done in the past and ask people for there opinion,he has made a few boo boos along the way.

John.... Sylvia's advice to use the Emoticons is an excellent idea for you as it will let people know that perhaps some of your comments are not to be taken the wrong way and they can be a bit of fun.

I for one agree with you the tree.... I can't look at for a very long time and I am just to worried about using it at the moment for fear of loosing any of my tree so I am waiting for them to sort it all out first
I am not good with computers (don't mind admitting that ) so a change like this is going to take me a lot of time to learn all over again,the old tree was good for people who are not computer savvy.

The colour scheme I don't even want to go there.

I am half Welsh and have lived in australia for 46years and I see nothing funny about trying to run someone off the boards,all paying members of Genes can voice there opinions anytime.

Sue :-S

Susan I would defend some of the comments made re 'have you looked at freebmd yourself' ( for example) in that most of those who help recognise the added pleasure of finding things oneself and are trying to point someone to records they can use in the future , rather than just give them the info. ( Agree that some say it in a more 'direct' way than others...that is how they 'speak')

No one is trying to run John off the boards , but there is no reason for him to be rude ( and I personally think he was) to members who also have an opinion.

I didn't find this a particularly friendly comment from John and no use of emoticons would have made it so.

"I can see it is a lifeline for those without much of a life for whatever reason,"

Rose

As I said John has made a few boo boos along the way ...he does not know the protocols of the boards seeing as it was his first time posting and I understand he may have upset a few people.

I really think he tried to remedy that but it did not make any difference see his message page 6 21;48.
I see an apology in all that message so why could it not be left at that.

I see nobody correcting people who are rude on the boards at all,I cringe sometimes at some of the comments made to new members just asking for help I myself was told off by one of them for helping with a request to which I promptly told them it was my choice to help if I so pleased.

John knows he overstepped the mark I suspect and it should be left there

Genes used to be a nice friendly place.

I have voiced my opinion and that is what the thread was put there for.

Off to watch the Games.Con grates to the team GB they have all done well and deserve there medals.

Goodnight from OZ
sue

Let us be very clear on one point "The only Bowing and Scraping done on here "(or allowed) is to "Hayley Empress of Drama Extraodinaire" who,s Birthday it is today. :-D and as you can read,I,m tugging my Forelock to her. And Sue ,you Voice as much as you like in your Welsh Lilt :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D **M**.(A full Blooded Welshman.PMSL. ;-) ;-)

Merlin

Thank You ..I think that was a compliment...not much of a Welsh accent left really after 46 years in OZ.

Would just like to see a friendly Genes back ..as Donald Sutherland said in Kelly's Heroes too much negativity :-D ;-)

Sue

it was, Everyone would like the friendly Genes back,its still a giggle sometimes. Bye the Bye, as you have been in Oz for so long and lost (Almost " the Lilt, Would that make you a "COR or a GI ?" pmsl. :-D :-D :-D :-D ;-)

Broken my word and decided to come back on.

I am of a generation who wrote letters and got a reply back in 6 months. Perhaps this way of communicating is all a bit quick and can be misinterpreted. And it can make us very emotional and angry - urggghhh!!!

I looked at what I had said by way of apology and thought I could not possibly have offended anyone by anything I had put in my apology. Yet now someone (Rose) is picking me up when I say "I can see that chat is useful for people who do not have much of a life"

I am sure one of you said something similar and I totally agreed with you earlier in this thread. There are people with disabilities, homebound, isolated, lonely. They are not as lucky as others and have a reduced quality of life. And chat threads with friends can mean an awful lot to them and broaden their horizons.

Why on earth did you criticise me for that, Rose Did I get a word wrong to upset you so much? Did I not use the right emoticon to show sincerity? I couldn't have been more sincere when I wrote that remark. Are you digging through my mails to see if there is something you can pick me up on perhaps.

I draw a line after each day and hold no grudges, I promise :-0 ;-) :-) <3 :-S

I didn't dig through your posts John , I just 'noticed', as I read many of the threads, on the various boards.

"I can see it is a lifeline for those without much of a life for whatever reason,"

that sounded to me, if no one else, very like the patronising attitude of certain people who suggest that making comments on a website on a regular basis implies one needs to 'get a life' as the saying goes.

If this was not your intention then I apologise unreservedly for misjudging you.

However I DO still think you have been rather patronising to certain members, and rather fond of saying how wonderful you are yourself...that may well be 'tongue in cheek' but that can be misread in type without the tone of voice to accompany it :-D