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ButtercupFields, Be careful on what you get ready for ? it may not be the "Visitation" your expecting :-0

Visitation of God :-0 ( ring any bells)

Roy :-D

Visitation on Friday at 4 pm

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I'll visit you Sue ( has to be said I'd visit almost anyone to get away from men with road cutters, pneumatic drills and little yellow diggers ;-) but it's the thought that counts lol ).

John it was very kind of you to visit the lady, it is very true that a lot of older people ( and some not so old) see noone for days at a time.

I shall have to polish my crutch in anticipation of visitors :-D :-D :-D :-D

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and put the kettle on :-)

Just as long as you don't get any visitation from me, Sue. It will uplift you too much to meet someone so nice and charismatic. Usually people are tongue-tied in my presence, and need something to calm them down afterwards. Better I just keep you in my thoughts today again.

So many thinking of you, and planning a mega visitation :-D :-D The flowers will be from me.

HI John

I guess the flowers are for Suemaid then :-| :-| :-|

I think I may be in the dog house :-(.

The thread is much nicer now isn't it.....all that nasty stuff is gone.

It is good to laugh at your self a bit as well.....don't wind to much remember.

susan

Susan, it is one of the nicer qualities about regulars on Chat...they are very adept at turning a potentially ill-tempered thread into a pleasant one :-)

Now, about that Visitation ;-)

BC XX

I still cannot get on with this new tree. Yes, I have written. Yes, I have tried to read instructions. Yes, I have adjusted my clothing, brightness, everything else. Yes, I have most up to date bruiser. Yes, I do like moaning. Yes, I am a saddo. Yes, I am patronising, dear little ones. Yes, I know Genes have said...

But I am almost perfect (still working on this fault of false modesty). Yes, I am so intelligent sometimes I wonder if my head will burst - and if that Stephen Fry continues to phone and ask me questions, I shall consider it to be harrassment. I probably know more about genealogy than anybody else in the world - I can easily connect all of you to Genghis Kham if you give me your star sign and when you last had a visitation. And I am so charismatic and good-looking, I sometimes wish I was fat and ugly just to divert attention.

But humble. You don't know the meaning of the word. I still sometimes think there is even more to learn before I pop my Tyrwhitt Oxford brogues.
:-P

Hello Mr John,~~~~( ~~thats a wave).

Now I know you have a swelling on your cheek the size of a gobstopper ...but you really must get a grip, you have used.

**Charismatic** twice in about a hour to sell yourself......

Does it mean the same as **Charming**


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Charismatic is a very difficult word. I don't know why I have so much of it, dear Kay.

But I stand in the middle of a field, and I am surrounded. I go to an empty restaurant, and it is full within 10 minutes. I go round the supermarket with my valet and other staff and people want to talk to me and get my signature as I exit the checkout.

How very charming of you to ask. But I really don't need to sell myself at all - I am free to any caring owner ;-) :-D

:-D :-D :-D....

Oh Dear John,


Now I would have thought you would have come with a high price tag -------FREE, ;- am shocked you come cheap..... ;-) ;-) :-D

I decided to have a go on the Wales board, as I had been invited by Sandie, I think, and as I live in Wales . Fun to see what is happening on that thread. Have paddled my coracle into the middle of the river, been particularly nice to them all ( I thought), apologised to Sandie for having an opinion that was not hers. And they are all standing on the banks firing arrows of indignation at me.

What a carry on! But it must be therapy for them to have a hate figure. And they enjoy their mob mentality - making others feel inferior makes them feel better about themselves. And I honestly don't mind being that hate figure if it helps them.

I so wish that Genes could give me a tree format I can work on again, to stop me being so naughty and keep me out of trouble.

But I will really miss some of you (honest), I so look forward to your posts - even when you are teasing me mercilessly - and will peep in occasionally to rub you all up the wrong way :-( ;-)

Every one has a different style of writing. When a member new to the boards starts posting on a regular basis, it takes them and the ‘old hands’ time to get the flavour and try to see behind the words to what could be the ‘real’ person.

Although we may read many threads, we often feel more comfortable replying to/on those where we ‘know’ the other posters, and its certainly difficult joining in with a long running thread; the new poster to it probably doesn’t know the ‘back history’ unless they have ploughed through the 100s of pages.

Keep plugging away John. As long as you don’t go out of your way to insult or boast, (pity there isn’t a tongue in cheek icon!) you’ll be accepted.

John
I don't usually enter into any controversial discussions on threads but I do find your comments on here about the Welsh thread insulting.

Please do not tar everyone with the same brush or judge people by your standards.

I'm sorry you seem to be having so much trouble with your tree which has obviously frustrated you beyond all reason.

I for one really like the new format,don't have any problem with it.
I really can't understand why you can't continue your research as before.
Surely you have your tree on your PC and therefore don't need your Genes tree to carry on researching.
Take care
Von

Det - many thanks. You have been a real help, even though we differ in our abilities and opinions (and you will know that I am NOT suggesting my abilities are better than yours :-)

Von - welcome to this thread and I welcome your views. Many agree with me about this new layout. And quite a few are happy with it. No problems there - just that I have not been able to use it. Have tried quite a few times, but it is not the simple tree builder that I sourced 9 years ago. And taking away the old tree has changed my simple routine.

I went on Community to see if there was any anti-new layout comments and if I was the only one who just could not get on with it.

I enjoyed reading the varios threads in teh sub-sections for first time. I though they were all to do with Genealogy, so a thread about Wales would be about the distinctive problems of Welsh genealogy, in my mind. So, yes, to that extent, I felt many of the contributions were what you would find on a social networking site.

Whne it was forciblly pointed out to me that that was not the purpose of Shaun's thread (or indeed any of the chat threads) I apologised for my ignorance as a complete newbie to Community.

And I apologise to you if I have upset you in any way. I do now see the love that the Wales site generates and that is is very important to so many.

Please feel very free to say what you want to me. I really take it all in the right way ie see behind what you say to what you mean.

Best wishes

ps you may be interested that my wife's grandfather had a first cousin who married David Lloyd George. That has taken me down the line of researching D Ll-G's family in Pembrokeshire - near Fishguard, from memory. He was from solid Baptist Pembrokeshire roots, she was from equally solid MC roots in Eifionydd. Her father did not take to the pushy solicitor couting his only daughter. :-)

John
Which programme do you use on your PC for your family history?

I use Family Historian and now find that the Genes tree is not too dissimilar from FH.

One aspect of the new tree that I particularly like is the list.
Where I have access to others trees that are particularly large I have never been able to find the connections.

Now I can
View other trees, click on lists, put it into alphabetical order and find my family names.
Then all I have to do is click on the person then on immediate family and hey presto find their place in the tree.
Before it was a nightmare trying to scroll up and down and find my relatives in other large trees and many a time I gave up.

BTW my Lloyd family farmed in Brynberian, Pembrokeshire. All my Welsh family were non conformist which has made tracing them a particular challenge.

Edit to say
you were referring of course to the George family.
My George family came from Meline but so far can't find any baptisms. Maybe time to widen the net.


If you haven't already subscribed you may be interested in the Dyfed
thread on rootsweb. It's a particularly interesting site with many very knowledgeable people on there who are more than willing to share their knowledge.
Take care
Von

Morning John.

You do sound lik a big old soft banana,,,,just a like a lovely old grandad,,,, ;-) :-D.

anyway as you get great joy at leaving good old england as you get the air of the hills and valleys I envy you as I love Wales but with some reservations as a warm welcome in the hillsides isnt always so.....but thats a small price to pay for enjoying one of the most (amongest others of course) beautiful place.

Sorry you got lamblested for taking the mickey out of yourself ,funny but I always say-------nobody is perfect but I'm as near as you will get.... ;-) ;-) ;-) :-D :-D <3

Von

I had a small tree on hard copy 9 years ago. 16 folders - one for each of my gt grandparents and one for each of my wife's great grandparents. Had built folders up over 20 years by writing to people, visiting Family History Centres of Mormon church and local authorities.

Was never that comfortable with the programmes available. Tried a few but usually found I was soon marrying my great grandmother (not true). But when I became the father of my grandfather, I rather gave up. My fault, not the software

I loved Genes right from the start. For two reasons - one, I could build my tree with few niggles. First cousins did often marry, and that was a little niggle because you had to keep cross-referencing from one part of tree to another.

And two - these hot matches were fantastic. All of a sudden, I had loads of relatives for someone who had been a brick wall for 20 years. Of course, I always checked it out religiously, but very often it was excellent new information that we could share and mutually develop our trees.

Advances in tree building have accelerated apace in that 9 years, and new researchers now expect to find all their great great grandparents in days, even hours.

What I was hoping to do was to continue to build my tree till I stop work (end of 2013). I was then going to export it to a programme that could print small excerpts (tree grown from about 2,000 in 2003 to 23, 000 today) and that I could handle confortably. And I intend eventually (God willing) to publish 16 books (10 of which will be based in Wales) about the lineage of each of these 16 gt grandparents. With trees to show where their great grandparents came from, and interesteing local stuff about trades, religion etc that I have picked up over the years. Four in the Vale going up to foot of Valleys in places like Tonyrefail and Ystrad, two in Flintshire (Holywell and Llanarmon yn Ial), three in Caernarfonshire (Bangor, Criccieth and Llangybi) , one in Denbighshire (Colwyn Bay), one in Cumbria (Dalton in Furmess) , one in Isle of Man (Onchan) , one in Liverpool and three in East Shropshire/Black Country (Wolverhampton, Walsall and Shifnal)

But regrettably (for me) I am now updating my records in hard copy again, and will not really be able to move things forward much for next 15 months till I retire.

You are very welcome to look at what I have on my tree. It sounds very much like your George family will be quite closely related to David who married Ms OWEN (can't remember her first name) up in Criccieth. I have a lovely photo of D Ll-G and his family enjoying a Sunday afternoon in Criccieth(probably Llanystumdwy) en famille. With his friend and neighbour (The MC Minister for Criccieth for 47 years who was brother of my wife's grandfather). Also two leaders of the Methodistiaid Calfinaidd movement in North Wales - the senior one of whom had probably led the worship that morning in the MC chapel in Criccieth

Can I say something without annoying you John? I wonder. It is said pleasantly however.

I think it would perhaps have been best to read the boards a bit more for a taste of what kind of 'atmosphere' ( in a good sense not negative) , for example, and not exclusively, a thread like the Welsh one has. It's not, as you have gathered anything to do with genealogy other than that all the members have been brought together by the subject...(and that is true of this whole 'general' chat board ) unlike the Genealogy chat board which is genealogy focussed ....yes I know I am stating the obvious, but I do so in the knowledge that the 'obvious' is not always obvious to everyone lol .

You remind me rather of my old tutor, he was from the valleys, and his students did not always appreciate the subtlety of his wit , not to mention his wicked glee at his own reeling out of nets to tangle unwary students who thought they had him 'pegged'.... he polarised opinion shall we say lol ( I adored him).

btw you are younger than many members on here so don't feel that your age is any barrier to being able to get the 'feel' of the boards ( or indeed the 'lingo' people on the internet use...boards, forums, sites etc), it is something that comes with many years of enjoyment of people's individual style.....and ducking the odd bullet. :-D