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ATOS (one day this could be you)

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JohnLovesHorlicks

JohnLovesHorlicks Report 28 Sep 2012 22:59

Joy and 5EXY I really do not see why I need to enter a competition to determine whetehr you are more aware and more understanding than me about the plight of people who are chronically sick or terminally ill.

Your comments continue to be beneath contempt, in my view. You are trying hard to be hurtful to make yourselves appear better than me. It won't work. I have skin and blood like you. I have a compassionate and caring nature. Do you?

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 28 Sep 2012 22:45

maybe people dont quite understand how bad things are with the DWP and ATOS
until it happens to somebody you know is genuinely ill

i know i did not myself :-(

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 28 Sep 2012 22:40

The name is 5EXY not what you are saying my name is.

Yes it's the criteria you attach to it & your total lack of understanding of what real people are going through that beggers belief. You in in my view fail to see the big picture. IMHO

JohnLovesHorlicks

JohnLovesHorlicks Report 28 Sep 2012 22:33

Sexy Do you agree that I have said I want us to help anybody who genuinely deserves medical and financial help.

If you feel the answer to that is "no" - then it will not be a fair or civilised discussion IMHO

Joy Have absolutely no idea. I am not quite as knowledgable on medical matters as even yourself

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 28 Sep 2012 22:32

john i know somebody that really happened to

they were also suggested they become a taxi driver
BUT where would they get insurance to carry fare paying passengers
after cancer having only one lung a massive heart attack and on oxygen :-(

oh i also forgot to say they had a estimated limited life span

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 28 Sep 2012 22:26

So if another person doesnt agree with your views you don't wish to have a civillised discussion about it then?

JohnLovesHorlicks

JohnLovesHorlicks Report 28 Sep 2012 22:19

Am happy to have a civilised discussion.

But "maybe you could say they could do them sex phone lines
and if heavy breathing is needed we could stand on the oxygen pipes" (Joy) and "Would your views be what they are today? Would you feel the DWP or ATOS are bullying/cheating on you & letting you down? stopping your money, leaving you with no money to live on"

These are disgraceful comments and have absolutely nothing to do with my views. Absolutely nothing. It is them imagining people who are against people who deserve benefits and love from the rest of society. And imagining that I am one of those people against them and not for them. I am totally sympathetic - read what I have actually put, not what you THINK I put.

How many more times??????!!!!!!!!!

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 28 Sep 2012 22:15

Why are you disgusted John????????? I only said what is true.

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 28 Sep 2012 22:11

Why's that then John, or can't you think of an answer?

JohnLovesHorlicks

JohnLovesHorlicks Report 28 Sep 2012 22:08

Am absolutely disgusted with what Sexy and Joy have written. Absolutely disgraceful - no further comment :-( :-(

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 28 Sep 2012 21:57

Hi John I bet your day went somthing like as follows..
You woke up & got out of bed
You went to the bathroom & got washed & dressed for work
You then went downstairs had made coffee, sat down & drank it, maybe made breakfast & had that too.
You then stood up put on your coat & left the house, Got in your car & drove to work.
You then did a full day’s work & everything that involved in it.
You then walked to your car & drove home again.
You parked your car up, walked in your house, took off your coat, made another tea or coffee, sat down & drank it.
You maybe turned on the TV & or computer watched the TV or communicated with others on the computer, did something else you wanted to do.

Now just think if you could not do any of the above on your own, Would your views be what they are today? Would you feel the DWP or ATOS are bullying/cheating on you & letting you down? stopping your money, leaving you with no money to live on. Leaving you to think what is the point of going on in this world anymore, because you have lost your home & everything you have ever had.
Is this getting through to you yet John. That is what some people end up like thanks to the DWP & ATOS.

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 28 Sep 2012 21:44

i think you could well be right Lynda

Rose drunk in charge of a keyboard lol ;-)

RamblingRose

RamblingRose Report 28 Sep 2012 21:41

Joy last time, one and only time, I was drunk in charge of a keyboard I was 'saved' by an Empress lol, and since then I've only had half a half-bottle at Christmas :-D I think if I did start it might become too much of a habit , like my coffee is lol.

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 28 Sep 2012 21:36

Ladies, I don't drink either, but surely you realise that a lot of people who post must ;-)

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 28 Sep 2012 21:34

maybe Rose we should turn to drink lol :-D :-D

RamblingRose

RamblingRose Report 28 Sep 2012 21:28

I rarely drink either ( though sometimes I think it might be a comfort to have a large bottle of something before reading this board!).

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 28 Sep 2012 21:19

just thought i would mention this john
i dont drink except for tea and lucozade

some people who are diagnosed with 5 years to live
still have no quality of life
also the stress of never knowing when their end will come
within thee 5years is awful
some have really bad breathing conditions or heart conditions
and need constant medication and oxygen machines

maybe you could say they could do them sex phone lines
and if heavy breathing is needed we could stand on the oxygen pipes :-(
or
maybe they could be astronauts
well they have their own oxygen supplies and would only need the suits

JohnLovesHorlicks

JohnLovesHorlicks Report 28 Sep 2012 20:48

:-\ :-\ :-\ Off out for a bevvy (coffee and Welsh cake) :-D

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 28 Sep 2012 20:45

*yawn*

JohnLovesHorlicks

JohnLovesHorlicks Report 28 Sep 2012 20:19

Joy Good question. I guess we are all dying. My dad was just 60 and died whilst he was working. Sure he would have preferred to have a diagnosis that he had a year to live, so he could have planned things better.

Those actually in the very last stages of their lives (hospice, MacMillan nurse visits) can be very different to those given, say, a maximum of 5 years to live. There is a huge range and each person needs to be assessed individually, I would have thought. Each individual has different plans and ideas for the rest of their life however long or short, and you can do an awful lot even in one day.
You are just trying to generalise - not a good idea, surely :-( :-(

Sue Think bevvied up may have been pretty accurate. Due legal process will take effect if I am wrong :-( I did think he/she was on a different thread, but possibly they thought the same about me :-D If the poster comes back on and says they never had a drink last night, I will apologise profusely to them. But I would like to know what on earth they were on about :-S