General Chat

I am quite aggressive by nature when it comes to defending my family but possessions can be replaced, your life cannot.

I have no idea how I would react if I encountered a burglar in my house. Depends what they were stealing. They can have everything except my jewellery which has sentimental value and cannot be replaced.

My OH is a different personality altogether, his reaction would probably be to beat the hell out of them even though he is passive by nature. He'd certainly try to restrain them until the police arrived! They would never outrun him that's for sure :-D

Sue

A couple of years ago, I was staying the night with my daughter when she had uninvited visitors.

I heard a noise downstairs & called out thinking it was one of my Grandchildren, they fled empty handed & were gone by the time I got downstairs. Good thing as I was armed with a walking stick & would have used it.

It is not just material things they take. Even now my autistic Grandson has nightmares about people coming into his 'safe' place & my Granddaughter barricades herself into her bedroom.

Anyone who enters a property with intent to steal, should be prepared for the consequences.

Trespassers should be aware that should they do any damage, even breaking a branch from an overhanging tree in our woods or picking up chestnuts they could be liable to be prosecuted & not just for trespassing.
Before someone decided they had the right to fish in our lake, leaving litter endangering the wildlife, damaging the banks & trees, we were happy for all to enjoy the peaceful haven we own.

Many people use the footpath through our wood & we keep it clear for them. It is a pity that some keep to the footpath but allow their dogs to fowl it or go into the wood chasing wildlife & disturbing nesting birds.

George, it's illegal to incite racial hatred or use language likely to do so - so they are *not* free to express their views. And a good thing too.

Free speech is not as free as some people think.

Gwynne

All this argument comes down to the "Rule of Law". The Law is open to interpretation by the Judge(s) but within limits. (A Judge's ruling can be overturned)

Vigilantism is illegal. You cannot make up the law as you go along, neither are the Police "The Law" they are the Officers of the Law and trained in it's use on the spot. (though sometimes they make mistakes - as do the Judges).

Anyone who promotes Vigilantism...policing by untrained people, is without the law and subject to punishment under The Law for provocation of violence.

One cannot say "I think this is wrong....therefore I am right" without recourse to The Law.

I am with George on BNP. You can belong to that party is you want in a free country. People do vote fo it. One MEP is BNP. Quite a few elected Councillors are. But they must be law-abiding. They must allow people of all ethnic origins to be members etc.

I am with me on trespassing on land. Very seldom do it, but if I am on a public footpath it is often blocked by barricades, "trespassers prohibited" signs, "beware of bull" sign. If I feel safe, I just carry on walking. If I get challenged, I smile and apologise and say something like "I thought this was marked as a public footpath".

But usually farmers are really nice and are not bothered if you walk on their land as long as you do no damage and have respect. I may get shot, but run more risk crossing the road. And I feel safer walking along a path in the countryside with a farmer coming towards me on his quad bike than driving through Pontypridd at 11pm on a Friday night as they come out of clubs and pubs.