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Diabetic OH.............

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Paula+ Report 6 Nov 2012 21:42

I thought you were referring to the sugar in the low fat ice cream. I have not eaten bread pudding since my Mother died in 1997........ but I might be tempted :-D


Ron2 Report 6 Nov 2012 21:25

Bit of a postscript re the bread pud. My daughter loves it, she ain't diabetic, has a sweet tooth but still thinks tis sweet enuff. Some of her workmates tried it and now have recipe

Was at a farmers mkt in Lichfield in May and they were selling bread pud on a stall. Didn't buy any as had already had a snack but got chatting up the ladies and they make their version without oil or suet so shall have to have a dabble


Paula+ Report 6 Nov 2012 21:21

I am not sure about the sugar content Ronald I just took recipe from diabetic website so one would assume it was checked out............


Ron2 Report 6 Nov 2012 21:18

Found my recipe in my diabetes folder on PC.
Due copying and pasting onto this thread the layout has got a bit crooked.


Great for using up stale bread and with only a little added sugar it is an ideal teatime treat. It is classed as OK for diabetics – tho’ in moderation (as with everything else) and for diabetics best made with whole meal bread.

Makes 12 Pieces

350g/12oz bread, cut or torn into cubes – I use an uncut 1lb loaf (Whole Meal)from a supermkts bakery and cut a thick crust of one end which leaves me the weight of bread I need. .

300ml/half pint milk I use full skimmed milk

150ml/quarter pint of water

175gr/6ozs sultanas
1 eating apple – peeled and chopped Not really necessary
2 tablespoons of golden caster sugar I’ve used ordinary sugar in the past but
only one tablespoon. Now using small amount “Splenda”
In lieu
2 tablespoons mixed ground spice
4 tablespoons of sunflower oil I use Almond oil in lieu
1 egg beaten


1. Place the cubed bread in a large mixing bowl and pour over the milk and water.
Allow the bread to soak up the liquid. This will take longer if bread is old.
Stir occasionally.
2. Preheat the oven to 180C/350F/Gas Mark 4.
3. Stir the sultanas, apple, sugar and spice into the soaked bread and mix until
well combined. Beat in the oil and egg.
4. Press into a lightly oiled 23cm/9” square cake tine (ours is 8” square) and bake for 45 minutes. Note I grate some nutmeg on top prior cooking
5. Allow to cool slightly, prior cutting into 12 squares – I don’t cut into 12 squares
But cut pieces as and when required.

NOTE: Re the sugar mentioned. There's already sugar in the bread, natural sugar in the sultanas and natural sugar in the milk so can't really see the need for it


Ron2 Report 6 Nov 2012 21:07

Eye tests there are 2 types of tests for diabetics.

1. The 'normal' but enhanced test at an opticians every year.

2. The test (can't remember technical name)at a hospital where drops inserted into the eyes and then the back of the eyes foto'd about 20 mins later.Your GP may have already advised the NHS Trust of your OHs prob and annual call up would then be automatic.NB Must not drive for up to 6 hours after test as eyes wont be up to scratch

Both tests important.

The foot circulation test is, in my case, done by the Diabetes Nurse at my annual MoT. I do attend a Foot Clinic but they cut nails sort out any probs on soles etc but I do get them to check my ankle pulses as well. I do cut my own toe nails despite being told I should file them not cut. Worry of health staff is that me cutting them and somehow damaging a toe. Additionally I use a file (from Bodyshop) to file bottom of feet to remove hard skin. I also, as advised, apply cream daily (can buy in chemists) to soles of feet. NB tho NO cream in between toes can cause fungus.

• Have an annual foot review
• Know your risk level
• If at higher risk - get referred for expert advice
• Check your feet every day for any signs of damage
• Be aware of any loss of sensation
• Get a family member or friend to test the feeling in your toes
• Look after your toenails
• Avoid corn removing plasters
• Always wear well-fitting shoes
• Maintain good glucose control
• Source: Diabetes UK Cymru

Watch out for excma, I had it but keep it at bay with some cream. Was sent to a GP at another practice who specialises in 'spots' so whilst there I was given a check for skin cancer and an 'iffy' spot removed.

I love bread pud Paula - have a different recipe from a Diabetes cook book will download it when can find out where CD is. But low fat icecream? How much sugar in that? Fruit bread? Must be fair amount sugar in that too.Dont 4get cream has fair whack of natural sugar in it. Not nit picking but tis way I have to look at things. ie My bread pud made with whole meal bread.


Paula+ Report 6 Nov 2012 20:27

Yes I always buy sugar free.


Elizabeth2469049 Report 6 Nov 2012 18:39

There are - or were, haven't looked lately - sugar free jelly in the shops


Paula+ Report 6 Nov 2012 17:19

Thank you Julia I really do appreciate your comments. My OH is doing well (much better than I expected him to) You are right about he “hidden” sugars and salt we are checking everything as we go along. I have tried to avoid any drastic changes in what we eat mainly because I already have a very healthy low fat, low sugar diet, not for any specific health reasons just my preferences. OH however does (or should I say did) have a very sweet tooth, two sugars in tea/coffee, biscuits, sweets, cake, CHOCOLATE !!!! etc. Also his portion control was way too much, but as I have said previously he loves good food. The first thing we looked at was to to reduce the portions size and we now follow the GI diet which is using your plate as a guide one quarter carbohydrates one quarter protein and half vegetables so far it seems to be working and OH says he has not been hungry. We both eat lots of fruit so he has taken to snacking on fruit rather than the sweeter stuff, no crisps nuts checking for added S&S. Everything is grilled his GP told us to use Rapeseed oil for cooking and making dressings. I know what you mean about not wearing shoes indoor, but as he never does this I think he will be fine, however I will keep this in mind. When we saw his GP, who was absolutely fantastic, and spent a long with us explaining basically what we needed to do, he emphasised that if OH was sensible with his diet he would be OK. He needs to try to increase his exercise, this is not going to be easy for him as he works full time and the shifts rotas are not really conducive to a gym or health club, however he swims when he gets the chance and we both love walking. I will mention to him even though he only had two new pair of glasses in August it maybe worth him seeing a specialist optician, but no doubt his GP will go into all these things when we see him in three months, he did say for us to go back if we had any concerns. People on here have been so kind helpful and supportive, I have been able to pass on to my OH the advice and their experiences all of which have been extremely helpful. Thank you Julia, I hope all is well with you

PS I like the sound of the jelly for myself too.


Julia Report 6 Nov 2012 14:13

Paula, thought I would wait and see what other Diabetics had to say.
For years I was Type 2, just relying on avoiding sugar, which was easy for me, as I had not taken it for years, and generaly eating healthily.
Then, whilst in hospital for something else, I had a Hyper, when the blood sugars are too high. I was given Insulin, and also prescribed Metformin and Glizacide (sp).both in tablet form, and issued with a monitor to take and measure blood samples twice a day.
But, it is not just about eating the correct foods. I think Ronald touched on eyesight. I have my eyes tested every year by a specialist Diabetic Optician at a local hospital. I am sent a list of 'local' hospitals to where I live, ring up the local Health Authority, and state a place, date and time. This is not the same eye test, as taken at Spec Savers, for instance.
Also, feet. It is necessary for your feet to be attended by a Chiropidist, who will also, once a year, give a 'Circulation Test ' of the feet. This is quite painless, and is just a small instrument, such as a needle, jabbed into various areas of both feet and ankles to measure the circulation.
Now, here is a little warning. Diabetics of any type, should not walk without anything with a solid sole, on their feet. Bare feet and socks or stockings are banned. This is because, Diabetics sometimes get 'dead spots' on the soles of their feet, and if they trod on anything sharp, they may not feel it. This could lead to an infection, also dangeroues to Diabetics. So, always wear shoes or slippers.
Diabetis is not about DEPRIVING yourself of anything, or going HUNGREY. It is about things in moderation, and watching the sugars, both evident, and hidden.
Hope this helps.

Quick Diabetic Jelly.
Sachet of fruit flavoured tea, made up as instructed on the box.
Couple of Gelatine leaves made up as above.
No sugar, involved.

Julia in Derbyshire


Paula+ Report 6 Nov 2012 13:39

For anyone interested I took this recipe from a diabetic site and made it yesterday it is really very easy and very, very good :-

Apple Bread Pudding (Diabetic)

2medium apples(300g)
2tablespoons brown sugar
1tablespoon water
2 1/2cups no fat milk(625ml)
1vanilla bean(halved lengthways)
4slicesfruit bread(thick sliced)
1/2teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/4teaspoong round nutmeg
Preheat oven to 160 degree celsius (140 degrees for fan forced).
Grease deep 1.5 litre (6 cup ovenproof dish).
Peel, core and quarter apples, cut each quarter into 3mm slices.
Dissolve brown sugar in the water in medium frying pan over low heat, add apples; simmer, uncovered, about 5 minutes or until tender, stirring occasionally.
Combine milk and vanilla bean in medium saucepan; bring to a boil.
Remove from heat; stand, covered, 5 minutes.
Discard vanilla bean.
Meanwhile (while milk stands) cut bread slices into quarters.
Arrange bread and apple in alternate layers (finishing with bread) in dish.
Whisk eggs, cinnamon and nutmeg in medium bowl.
Gradually whisk hot milk mixture into egg mixture.
Pour egg mixture carefully over bread and apple.
Place dish in a large baking dish; add enough boiling water to baking dish to come halfway up side of pudding dish.
Bake uncovered about 1 hour or until set.
Serve with low fat ice cream or light cream, if desired


Paula+ Report 6 Nov 2012 13:36

I agree with you Sylvia we should only do what our body tells us to. As we get older its not about being competitive just about enjoying whatever exercises help to keep us fit. Some days I am like a steam train other days I am like a broken down truck.............. :-D :-D :-D


SylviaInCanada Report 6 Nov 2012 01:42


that's exactly what I had to do ............

............. and I also couldn't manage all the exercise suggested (30 minutes of walking 5 x a week). But in my case it was because of the pain I am in at various times.



Paula+ Report 5 Nov 2012 22:29

He is following the GI diet for three months then go back to Docs. I have already thought about plain scones, so will give them a try. Yes he is lucky with his GP a very sound straight talking chap, he was positive that if OH continued with this diet he should be fine. It is rather difficult for him to exerciseat the moment as he works full time, doing two shifts does not give him chance for a regular routine, we like walking at the weekend, and swimming when he can fit it in............... On the other hand I am the Queen of keep fit ;-)


Ron2 Report 5 Nov 2012 21:24

Trying out a new fat free and 5.6 sugar yog from Weight Watchers. Quite nice, quite thick. Would like a little less sugar but ..................

Paula - has your GP suggested OH has annual eye tests? He should as tis another way of keeping tabs on diabetes, opticians has to be informed OH is nigh on diabetic as they add on some extra bits to the test.

Just had my blood test today for my annual diabetes MoT, see boss nurse on Tuesday next week to discuss results. At least my BP @ 110/58 was OK this morning.

Your OH sounds as tho he's doing OK. If you on a day out and hubby gets hungry suggest fol the Heart Foundations advice and no cake but just a fruit or plain scone with spread - or a single digestive biccy. I have to have a mid morning/afternoon snack every day or I start going downhill.

You are lucky with your GP. Some GPs aint got a clue about diabetes and their patients suffer because of it. Mate's GP put him on some tabs not long back, mate (Type 2) felt ill, checked the leaflet with the pills and found out he'd been prescribed twice the permitted limit!

Only good thing about diabetes is that if have to have op' in hospital diabetics get the early slots due the 'nil by mouth' 12 hour rule.

Space Museum at Leics yesterday, needed some exercise so climbed the 144 steps in the tower.


Paula+ Report 4 Nov 2012 23:12

Grannie :-D :-D :-D


ann Report 4 Nov 2012 23:09

Have his sweet tooth took out lol
I lost my cousin a few years ago to diabetes.Aged 43 so we deffo have it in my family xx


Paula+ Report 4 Nov 2012 23:03

Thank you everyone.
Ronald. OH is not having any sugar in tea/coffee also skimmed milk. No sweets or biscuitsand and he is getting used to it. He is classed as borderline diabetic, so GP talked us through diets. GP is also diabetic so was able to give first hand advice. Lots of advice online and plenty of recipes. Thank you for suggestion re chocolate he really has a sweet tooth so that will be a little treat for him. I made sugar free jelly with blueberries and raspberries for pudding today and it was very good. I find the difficulty is the "hidden" sugar and salt found in so many food products that have to be taken into consideration. Its a steep learning curve but we are getting there.


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Nov 2012 19:40

If its any help, my OH stopped having milk and sugar in coffee and changed to black. As, to him, it was a different drink he didn't miss the sugar.

He never used to drink tea, but now has black, sugarless Earl Grey as his main hot drink. He has to be sensible about black coffee as it can raise his BP.


Ron2 Report 4 Nov 2012 19:19

Hasn't your GP or diabetes nurse offered your husband chance to talk to a dietitian? I have access to one whenever I need. Would think your hubby now classed as "At Risk" and should have the flu jab.

Tea/Coffee - know the feeling I was OK drinking coffee without sugar but for a while had to resort to a sweetener for a cuppa tea. As he is now limiting his sugar intake he should make sure he carries 'emergency' sugars with him when out (especially if driving) ie Dextrose or in winter anyway SMALL bar of choccy. Tis possible he might suffer hypo's - sugar gets too low.My wife not diabetic but sometimes doesn't eat enuff sweet stuff and starts a hypo - I've seen her very near collapse when we out but some choccy fixes the prob..

Puddings - he will have to get used to a change of diet unless he decides otherwise and puts his life at risk. My main 'pudding' - one sliced apple topped with low fat, low sugar yoghort - sometimes add other fruit but try to avoid fruits with high sugar content. Quite like a sugar free jelly - especially in summer.

NB: So called diabetic foods - most are trash avoid 'Diabetic Jams', diabetic choc etc tho if in need of a laxative Thorntons Diabetic Chocs will do the trick! lol If he has to have some choc get him on Dark Choc - 80% cocoa solids - Green and Blacks etc but only a couple of squares a day.

Meals out - dont 4get such stuff as apple sauce, cranberry sauce etc very high in sugar as are most soups! Tomato soup is lethal sugar wise. Even home grown cherry tom's jack up my sugars.

Not as bad as it all sounds, I've got used to a major change of diet over the years.

I know that if I dont follow a decent diet my medication would have to be increased and eventually I'd end up on insulin with all its attendant problems.


Paula+ Report 4 Nov 2012 14:50

"We" are making progess, however, some things are easier than others. OH is finding it difficut to go from two spoons of sugar to none, he refuses to take sweeteners in his tea/coffee so he is a bit gloomy but bearing up . I have download some really tasty looking recipes and also brought the GI diet book reccommended by GP. We are trying smaller portions as I think his portion control was out of control. Onwards and upwards.......... :-D