General Chat

I sometimes look at the "Rivers of Blood" speech by Enoch Powell over 40 years ago. Some of it seemed inflammatory at the time and now seems illegal - but times have changed and I doubt he would say things exactly the same today. Worth a read in light of these despicabble Abus. However liberal your views.

But there is no denying he was an exceptionally clever man and a bit of a prophet.

What is our duty as a British citizen? Queen first - we can all ask Allah, or whoever our God is, to save her and make her victorious. Whether we are Jew, Muslim, Rastafarian comes second. That seems to happen in United States and other countries - why not here?

If people don't want to be British first, there are plenty of countries that they can happily live in.

John, like others you read it wrong,he said "Like The Roman I see Blood on the Tiber" which is a Quote from the "Classics" Possibly Vergil. I knew the man, and all his information "Re Immigration" Came from his Immigrant Constituants who had great regard for him.**M**.

And now the b****r is tryng to claim £10million compensation for wrongful imprisonment.

We could do with an Enoch Powell now!

If ,as is quite likely, he gets anything, perhaps he will be charged for bed and board, plus all the other money he has got out of the taxpayer over the time he has been here,also that the people representing him in court will not get legal aid to act for him and have to pay the costs themselves.**M**.

I cannot understand why we are so soft on these people. Have you ever looked at what problems you would have if you tried to emigrate to another country.

I looked at emigrating to India a few years ago. Not very seriously, but enough to realise it is extemely difficult if you are not an Indian national. You cannot buy property or land if you are a European and you can only get a 6 month visa each year. So people have live 6 months in India then return to UK for 6 months or move somwhere like Thailand for 6 months.

We know why so many want to come here. It is the weather and the culture. They appreciate all the benefits the UK offers. Can there be any country in the world as lax as the UK in controlling immigrants?

:-S

I used to lived in Wolverhampton at the time and can recall the impact it had on not only his constituants. He made his speech on the 20th April 1968, the final paragraph referring to immigration reads "Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal."

I think it is probably too late.

Paula+ I lived in Wolverhampton (Finchfield) till 1958. My parents were Liberal activists in '45 and '51 (supporting Sir Geoffrey Mander of paints and Wightwick Hall) but dad had the utmost respect for Powell.

And, yes, Merlin, he was on the side of the immigrants and many voted for him. He was probably the best Prime Minister we never had.

Just one aside. It would be about the time of that '68 speech. I was living in Bangor then and was listening to Welsh language radio. And Powell was interviewed in Welsh. It was very precise and academic Welsh but he was very fluent. One of cleverest men of that generation - and we finished up with Douglas-Home and Heath :-( :-(

The EU is one of the most corrupt organisations in the world Fact.Why do our politicians want to keep us in it ? Pigs and troughs come to mind

I think people of all political parties sat up and took notice and had opinions on this speech, but it took two decades before anyone started to take it seriously. I wonder what EP would think of the state of the nation today.

Paula+ It would have been pithy and succinct.

I saw this:-D

"One young Conservative, during a private meeting at the House of Commons, attempted to express his support for Powell. "Mr. Powell, I am a great supporter of your views." Powell interrupted him. "I do not get letters of support from you. I do not get financial rewards for your support. What is the nature of your support?" he said in his monotone voice. The youth blushed and sat down "

Not an easy man to like ;-)