General Chat

Tomorrow is the day. We will either get slaughtered by the All Blacks or we will play ok and be a revelation. Starts at 5.30, I believe.

On Radio Wales there was a piece today about learning the national anthem "Hen Wlad Fy'n Hadau" Most people who phoned in thought it would give Wales a big psycholgical lift tomorrow evening if all the players and everyone in the Millennium Stadium sang it with gusto.

Who knows the words on this site? Can we all be sure to sing it at 5.30 GMT as loud as possible, wherever we live in the world :-D :-D

I know a lot of the words (and they aren't the easiest) but hey I support ENGLAND :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Please sing tomorrow, Sue. Wales need you. England doing ok at moment

Need anything that wil neutralise the fearsome haka :-D

England didn't play well last week John, so I will be keeping quiet..lolol

I love anthems.

No connection to Wales but I love the anthem so I'll be doing my best.

I love the Irish anthem too.

I'm English by birth so I'll sing Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem or I Vow To Thee My Country.

My fav anthem which I am proud to sing having a Scottish heart is Flower Of Scotland.

I hope that Wales do well tomorrow but I get the feeling that they haven't quite shown the promise expected a couple of years ago.

I don't get to watch the rugby on television anywhere near as much as I want to but I will be trying to watch tomorrow.

Good Luck.

Jill

Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi,
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri;
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mad,
Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed.

Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad,
Tra mor yn fur i'r bur hoff bau,
O bydded i'r hen iaith barhau.

That's verse 1, anyway :o)

Rgds, Mr D.

The old land of my fathers is dear to me
Land of bards and singers, famous men of distinction
Her heroic soldiers, patriots so true
For the cause of freedom they spilt their blood

My land, my land, I am faithful to my land
Whilst the sea is a wall to the pure, beloved homeland
O may the old language endure

Nb And the old language has endured. Now 1400 years old. Happy birthday - penblwydd hapus, Cymraeg :-D :-D

My attempt at a translation. No, I don't know other verses either :-(

Strange things - National Anthems.

We love them but we rarely know all the words.

God Save the Queen

1. God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen
God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen.

2. O Lord our God arise
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall
Confound their politics
Frustrate their knavish tricks
On Thee our hopes we fix
God save us all.

3. Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour
Long may she reign
May she defend our laws
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen.

4. Not in this land alone
But be God's mercies known
From shore to shore
Lord make the nations see
That men should brothers be
And form one family
The wide world over.

5. From every latent foe
From the assassins blow
God save the Queen
O'er her thine arm extend
For Britain's sake defend
Our mother, prince, and friend
God save the Queen.

Missed a verse Dermot:


Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
and like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the King.

And third verse of Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau is roughly translated as:


If the enemy oppresses my land under his foot,
The old language of the Welsh is as alive as ever.
The muse is not hindered by the hideous hand of treason,
Nor [is] the melodious harp of my country.

Expect similar sentiments are in other national anthems. I hope we can stil be allowed to sing them in this pc age as, although we would refer land disputes to United Nations nowadays, they do remind us of proud patriotism of the past.

I have no interest in Rugby..........but i love to watch the "Haka"


"Ka Mate" Leader: Ringa pakia! ...... Slap the hands against the thighs!
Uma tiraha! ...... Puff out the chest.
Turi whatia! ...... Bend the knees!
Hope whai ake! ...... Let the hip follow!
Waewae takahia kia kino! ...... Stomp the feet as hard as you can!

Leader: Ka mate, ka mate ...... I die, I die,
Team: Ka ora' Ka ora' ...... I live, I live
Leader: Ka mate, ka mate ...... I die, I die,
Team: Ka ora Ka ora " ...... I live, I live,
All: Tenei te tangata puhuruhuru ...... This is the hairy man
Nana i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra ...... Who caused the sun to shine again for me
A Upane! Ka Upane! ...... Up the ladder, Up the ladder
Upane Kaupane" ...... Up to the top
Whiti te ra,! ...... The sun shines!
Hi! ...... Rise!

I might join you in that PH. Certainly when they play England as NZ are my third favourite (1. Wales 2. Ireland 3. NZ)

But am not squatting with tongue out this afternoon. Definitely slapping my thighs to "Gwlad - Gwlad" at top of my voice :-D :-D

good play or bad play I will always support the Welsh
will sing the Welsh Anthem with GUSTO
lol

You Tube the Haka and have a wonderful time. My all-time favourite is on there but I won't tell you which one. Feel free to guess if you watch a few of them. :-D

Flower of Scotland

O Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
Your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
The Hills are bare now,
And Autumn leaves
Lie thick and still,
O'er land that is lost now,
Which those so dearly held,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
Those days are past now,
And in the past
They must remain,
But we can still rise now,
And be the nation again,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
O Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
Your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.

Swing Low, Sweet Chariot Hymn

Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home,
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home.

I looked over Jordan, and what did I see?
Coming for to carry me home,
A band of angels coming after me,
Coming for to carry me home.

Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home,
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home.


If you get there before I do,
Coming for to carry me home,
Tell all my friends I’m coming, too.
Coming for to carry me home.

Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home,
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home.

I’m sometimes up and sometimes down,
Coming for to carry me home,
But still my soul feels heavenly bound,
Coming for to carry me home.

Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home,
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home.

The brightest day that I can say,
Coming for to carry me home,
When Jesus washed my sins away,
Coming for to carry me home.

Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home,
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home.

I Vow To Thee My Country Hymn
I vow to thee, my country, all earthly things above,
Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love:
The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test,
That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best;
The love that never falters, the love that pays the price,
The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice.

And there's another country, I've heard of long ago,
Most dear to them that love her, most great to them that know;
We may not count her armies, we may not see her King;
Her fortress is a faithful heart, her pride is suffering;
And soul by soul and silently her shining bounds increase,
And her ways are ways of gentleness and all her paths are peace.

Personally I will stick with the football.

Rugby is a game played by men with odd-shaped balls ;-)

We will be watching Scotland v Tonga today and of course
will be singing Flower of Scotland.

Jill although we like our football Scottish and English teams
among our favourites, I like the 'Rugby is played by men.'
part as they don't fall about like drama queens as some
footballers do. :-)

Emma

and when they score they don't run around like schoolgirls saying "look what I've just done" - FGS, that is what they are paid for, and very overpaid for - makes me cringe