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How do i print off all these postd to show my dad in the morning????

Certificates can be ordered here:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

I can confirm that patrick was his brother n blew lots of stuff!!! Andrew they lived at 52 Olton Boulvard! That is my GT Grandfather...Thankyou all what do i do first??? I do not know how to obtain certificates!!!
Thanks all

Interesting, free bmd gives 1912;
Marriages Jun 1912
Joyce John T Lock Birmingham 6d 36
Lock Martha R Joyce Birmingham 6d 36

Just to point out that there are 2 close births:
Births Mar 1886
JOYCE John Thomas Birmingham 6d 42
Births Sep 1887
JOYCE John Thomas Birmingham 6d 86

Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955
about John T Joyce
Name: John T Joyce (and Martha R Joyce)
Year: 1955
Ward or Division/Constituency: Sparkbrook
Street Address: 52 Olton Boulvrad East
Residence Place: Birmingham


Andy

Get the marriage certificate for John and Martha......it will give ages and fathers names if any apply.


Martha R Joyce died 1956 aged 65 Birmingham,she would have been 20/21 in 1912.

perhaps this is the funeral thats remembered.?

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: John Thomas Joyce
Probate Date: 5 Nov 1962
Death Date: 21 Sep 1962
Death Place: Birmingham, England
Registry: Birmingham, England


of 476 Stratford Road, Sparkhill, Birmingham
died at Selly Oak Hospital, Birmingham
Administration to Patrick Edward Joyce, sales manager.

Effects - £1795 0s 11d




Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
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Joyce Patrick E Lock Aston 6d 816

There is a probate record here

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about John Thomas Joyce
Name: John Thomas Joyce
Probate Date: 5 Nov 1962
Death Date: 21 Sep 1962
Death Place: Birmingham, England
Registry: Birmingham, England



Lived at 476 Statford Road Sparkhill

Probate to Patrick Edward Joyce.

Can you confirm if he was brother to your John T Joyce?


Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
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Joyce Patrick E Lock Aston 6d 816


Andy

?
John T Joyce
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1962
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 494
?
John T Joyce
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1945
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 192

One too early and the other too late?

Added:
The Martha Lock/John Joyce marriage was in 1872 not 1912:
John T Joyce
Spouse Surname: Lock
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1872
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 36
Martha R Lock

If you send for his birth certificate his mother's name will be on it. And his father's if they were married.

Please help!! I am at a dead end searching for my Grandfathers Father. They shared the same name as i am led to believe. My grandfather was born in Aston Birmingham 26/12/1912, he was registered in jan feb mar 1913. No problems with him, however i cannot find evidence of his father and mother. The couple were married in 1912 John T Joyce to Martha Lock. I can trace Marthas family but my Gt Grandfather seems to be missing! He died at home in Acocks Green ( not sure of date although it seems that my Father remembers attending the house for a funeral 1950-55 ish. I have no birth date of him just lots of Joyces. Also if i sent off for my Grandfathers Birth Certificate would that list his mother and father back in the 1800's?????