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Island Report 6 Feb 2013 20:29

I can't get my head round the jargon Bob. Interfacing??? That's what I put in collars and cuffs! :-S

Coo eee Wend :-D :-D


RolloTheRed Report 6 Feb 2013 20:34

That nice Mr Heidelburg.

I am glad that you found a niche. I assume with photo typesetting of the kind that eventually turned the British hot type industry upside down. A revolution.. "Mainframes" were very few and far between in the UK of the 1970s and 80s, far more often once encountered the "mini computers" (which still filled a room or two and weighed a ton) of DEC PDP and VAX, IBM 43x and the rest of the 7 dwarves. The PDP was a special favorite of the print industry.

I cut my teeth on letterpress as one of my rellies owned a printshop. I found it all a bit too deja vue. It was strange then that a while later I was busy with bleeding edge software to a large scale color printer in SW England. What goes around...

Offset litho printing is interesting, a sailing clipper technology that for the moment is still with us. Note though that Murdoch has cancelled the next generation of newspaper "presses". When they are done that will be that.

Print will become a highly desirable art form. Indeed this is already happening. Folio Society come back, your time has come. It is interesting that long lost letterpress machines have risen a lot in price, even for what are mostly restoration projects. Luckily the skills are still with us.

Please pass the cucumber sandwiches.

England have taken their lucky rabbit to Wembley are winning 1-0.
bye 4 now


Mersey Report 6 Feb 2013 20:46

:-S :-S


Wend Report 6 Feb 2013 20:49

Rolls eyes like Mersey :-S :-S :-S


RolloTheRed Report 6 Feb 2013 20:50

"working out the wages of the print industry."

As far as I remember the wages were usually worked out the old fashioned way with a strike until Murdoch took away the ball.

Thus the weaker ones went to the wall, Daily Chronicle, Reynolds News ....

For sure there were lots of American consulants with new ways of doing things such as payroll but the UK skilled working classes fought back hard. They lost so now we import coal from Poland, foreign ships whizz down the channel knocking over our wild birds with oil discharges and butchers with all of 6 weeks training as "cutters" despatch the finest cuts of horsemeat. Brave new world.

For my sins I once worked on payroll programs using a bizarre business language called COBOL (still used). It is like working in a salt mine for the mind.
Video monitors had yet to be invented so they used Hollerith punched cards. The 10in disk drives with all of 300K data cost about £ 30 K each. Which is why home computing took a while to get going. No mice.


Bobtanian Report 6 Feb 2013 20:56

DEC PDP 11 was the setup.........each satellite minicomputer was about 2 feet square around 5feet tall and had forced ventilation........the "mainframe" was another pdp11 in a floor to ceiling cabinet with two hard drives, around two feet, maybe 20 inches diameter, a separate tape reader and a distribution network cabinet.. think they used fortran for some of it......

a hand book about inch and a half thick with some well thumbed pages in the middle.......and a few pages on BASIC!


Island Report 6 Feb 2013 21:00

I's like Mersey and Wend :-)


Mersey Report 6 Feb 2013 21:03

Ive got a headache now :-S :-S :-|


Bobtanian Report 6 Feb 2013 21:05

A "perk" was when one of the office guys gave us a password to get into..........dungeo..............a dungeons and dragons type "game"

a cave exploration,with elves n hatchets n trolls n giants n beanstalks.......................n TREASURE!!!!

Budgie Rustler

Budgie Rustler Report 6 Feb 2013 21:05

And I thought I was the only one that could lose the plot. :-S

:-D :-D :-D


Wend Report 6 Feb 2013 21:06

Rollo - we're all sucking in the curtains, bless ya heart ;-)


Island Report 6 Feb 2013 21:06

I can't be harsed Mersey :-(


Island Report 6 Feb 2013 21:08

well I did say I couldn't be harsed :-D


Mauatthecoast Report 6 Feb 2013 21:10

:-S * falls face down onto keyboard* :-(


Wend Report 6 Feb 2013 21:11

Shall we dance, cha cha cha :-D


Mersey Report 6 Feb 2013 21:16

Mau dont slabber on the keyboard.....its dangerous lol :-D :-D ;-)


Mauatthecoast Report 6 Feb 2013 21:22

lol now I've got qwerty imprinted on me forehead :-0 ;-)


Mersey Report 6 Feb 2013 21:25

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D Mau.....


Island Report 6 Feb 2013 21:41

Could have been worse Mau, it could have been POIUY :-0 :-D


MrDaff Report 6 Feb 2013 22:00

For Rollo & Bob' with apologies to ladies (Part 1 only)

Part 1:
Olympia 80's + four-ply paper (+Tippex)
Gestetner machines (plus some red nail-varnish like equivalent to Tippex).
Remember them?

My first PC - 512Mb hard disk, 5 inch 'floppy' discs ....£1K :-S

Remember STARB & SPECOL - had to do a SSADM course using both, to produce an Air Traffic Control software programme :-S :-S

Part 2: (especially Island...)
You can still C + P without the ickle mousie! Just in case your battery runs out, or the spilt Horlicks sticks up the buttons :-D

Me? Luurrvv my mouse, even though I'm a 'touch typist' as well, it's just makes most PC things 'easier' :-D (you can scroll very quickly past certain posts if you have a mouse with the rolly thing in the middle ;-) )