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Britain's Top Cardinal Keith O'Brien Resigns

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Kay????

Kay???? Report 3 Mar 2013 19:31

The victims in this case were all in training and aged over 18 I belive 1980's ,,,,so no crime was committed in the true sense of the word......but no they arent all it at......

just that he was another that was,,,,,,!!!spits.....

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Mar 2013 19:46

John - do not keep harping on "they are all at it" - if you recall I amended to my posting to "how many are at it" although some still saw fit to report me - but you of course will just not let it go will you - that's twice you mentioned it in the past few minutes

dog with a bone springs to mind

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 3 Mar 2013 19:51

if only one is at it its one to many :-(

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 3 Mar 2013 19:53

woof
I mean baa

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Mar 2013 20:08

that's what sheepdogs say :-D

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 3 Mar 2013 20:11

that must be where I learnt it from

Dermot

Dermot Report 3 Mar 2013 21:03

"Anathematise papists & vilify dissenters" - this appears to be the call from some media reports before the guilt admission & includes several entertaining terms of abuse.

The insults are beating down like hailstones on the 'good' & the 'bad' indiscriminately.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 3 Mar 2013 21:15

I would expect the proportion of newspaper reporters and people down your street who are "at it" is roughly the same as priests in Roman Catholicism.

Yet I have heard no one yet say "15% of men in High St, Snoodlebum, Herts have had inappropriate behaviour with young people". :-S :-S

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Mar 2013 21:17

well watching both Sky and BBC news this evening it seems as if there is a lot more than just four priests involved here - when he apologised he said his behaviour fell short of what was expected as a priest, a bishop and a cardinal, implying his misconduct carried on with his promotions - the Observer reporter who first "broke" the story is of the opinion there is more to come

apparently he was very vociferous in his condemnation of homosexuals and same sex marriage and had wanted wider discussion on priests no longer having to be celibate

Kay????

Kay???? Report 3 Mar 2013 21:20


They want a good beating aswell,,,,,


how bitterly upset the dedicated people must be who have shown nothing but the upmost respect for some who they cast as a holy being,for an institution thats dictated their way of life to do nothing but good,-abstain from this abstain from that,dedication thats been followed to the letter with deep trust ,,,,,,,,,then bomb!!,they find what really lies under the cassock covering,-shock,, horror,,. someone whos been not been true.........like finding out your OH who you deeply love and respect and youve been devout and true to has been having an affair all your married life, ,,,,,insults its justifiable,

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Mar 2013 21:30

they must feel very let down indeed - so sad

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 3 Mar 2013 21:33

TO MUCH DO AS I SAY

NOT DO AS I DO

he should be leading the way to a good honest life

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 3 Mar 2013 21:36

It is show business, scouts, army and religion. And work. Inappropriate and unwanted sexual behaviour.

And unfortunately so often within families.

As far as Roman Catholic Church is concerned, they seemed to be in denial many years ago. But I have felt for some years they have been trying to deal with these crimes.

But it is like a runaway juggernaut or express train. So difficult to slow down quickly.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Mar 2013 21:38

I've been thinking about this - he has been taking confession no doubt over the years, listening to other peoples' sins and doling out penance, surely he himself hs to go to confession as well? so who's been listening to his confessions - was he truthful in them, and if so, why has it taken this long for it to come to light

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 3 Mar 2013 21:43

AnnC I think that is an excellent point.

I have never been in a confessional box, and I guess neither have you. But the privacy of the confessional must now come into question.

I think the priest who hears a confession from someone who has broken the civil law has a responsibility to tell the police.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Mar 2013 21:55

well it begs the question - was he truthful and if so, the person hearing the confesson should have reported it, so they are guilty also - where does it end

I only know of confessionals from seeing them in films

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 3 Mar 2013 22:06

how many blind eyes have been turned :-(

Kay????

Kay???? Report 3 Mar 2013 22:09


No a confession is totally confidential,,,,,,,if its a crime then advise would be to confess to the police,,,,this way no confidence of the confessional has been broken......its a win win,,,,the priest stays guilt free and the police get their man.

maybe they feel a pray and penance remedies any wrong doings themselves.....a self imposed whack.


whos going to be next?.......

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Mar 2013 22:12

I have a feeling a large can of worms has been opened wth this one - we'll see how many more come crawling out in the coming days and what else will be revealed

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 3 Mar 2013 22:19

just think of the signals he has been giving out
like your only guilty if your caught