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~`*`Jude`*`~ Report 5 Mar 2013 12:55

l have just sent this email to Vanessa on Radio 2, doubt she'll read but l felt better anyways!! unfortunately l sent before checking for spelling

Good afternoon Vanessa

l am listening to the TAX FOR BEDROOMS conversation and l am appalled at the way this snob of a man has no feeling for people, does he really know how this tax is effecting people, l know if some who are in an awful state about it, not knowing how they will manage, one is loosing money and and having to rent in the private sector and not having enough to live one. They will be moving from communities they havelived in for many many years, just like the so called caring government did years ago when they demolished high rise flats and moved people miles away from loved ones and communities.
They sit there in their posh houses having no real concept what REALLY GOES ON, please ask them to out and speak to the PEOPLE!!!


l'm just gobsmacked at the way this man talks, not the Scots man, he has feeling and is rebelling against it.
We all know that there are people waiting for 2 - 3 bedroom house etc (probably most of them are refugees anyways), but this also ruins lives and makes people ill because of the worry. Its a disgrace and l feel better now for rambling...

jude..... :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P the government


terryj Report 5 Mar 2013 13:26

my wife works for a housing association here in birmingham and when i hear her talk about who she has been to see i wonder if she has been transfered to the united nations
most of the propertys on the stratford road are let to somalie families
basically if you get married in brum and fancy social housing forget it
refugees etc come in with multiple kids and get so far up the point table you have no chance of catching them


~`*`Jude`*`~ Report 5 Mar 2013 13:33

Quite agree terryj....(edited...l left the t off't)



AnnMarieG Report 5 Mar 2013 14:20

Good for you Jude. It dosnt affect me but I feel really sorry for all those it does affect.Many will have sleepless nights.And where are they going to put them all if they move them to smaller houses. :-S :-S


terryj Report 5 Mar 2013 14:26

they have also cocked up one thing

when it comes in if you take in a lodger it is not counted against you benefit entitlementas it is now, so if you live in a desirable area you can charge megga rent and be quids in


vera2010 Report 5 Mar 2013 14:33

Good for you Jude. The most ill thought out idea for saving a bit of money I have ever heard of. Its not about saving space at all. At the very least, they could allow peiople to find a place to downsize to before reducing their benefit. Not that I think that people should downsize anyway. I feel there will be civil unrest because of this. We all know who are going to fill the 'freed-up' spaces and whilst I have no objections to other members of the European community being housed, its hardly fair to disrupt peoples lives who have lived in this country and their homes for many years. Disgusted Cambridgeshire.


Karen in the desert

Karen in the desert Report 5 Mar 2013 15:02

What I wonder is that none of this bedroom tax farce has really been thought through. For example, I don't think the scenario below is THAT unusual, but how how impractical is this........

Mr & Mrs Bloggs and 6 yr old son live in 3 hedroom house, but cannot take a cut in benefits, so 'bedroom tax' means they must move to 2 bedroom house. Only one available is in new area so Boy Bloggs has to change school.
Mr Bloggs has 12 yr old girl (from previous marriage) who comes to stay every 3rd weekend, so she now has to sleep on settee in lounge.
Addition to family, baby girl arrives. Girl Bloggs has to sleep in parents' room or share with 6 yr old brother.
5 years later, Boy Bloggs is 11, Girl Bloggs is 6, so I guess family now entitled to 3 bed house? None available in their own area, so they have to move away and Boy Bloggs has to change school again.
Mr Bloggs daughter age 18 still has to sleep in lounge on settee.

Have I got that right? Is that what COULD happen?

EDIT: I suppose it could continue - eventually Boy Bloggs reaches the age of 19, starts work and moves out of home. Family has to downsize again and go back to 2 bed house.
When Girl Bloggs reaches the age of 18 she moves out of home, so parents downsize to a 1 bed.
Heaven help us!!!!!! Whatever the Govt think they're saving on the bedroom tax fiasco, they'll be shelling out in removal costs and re-location benefits!


terryj Report 5 Mar 2013 15:07

bang on correct
and if one of the parents is disabled and needs a seperate bedroom too bad

Karen in the desert

Karen in the desert Report 5 Mar 2013 15:11


So what does happen if one of family is disabled and needs a seperate room? Just thinking of my uncle who, after an industrial accident, is confined to a wheelchair and sleeps in converted dining room as it is downstairs. Is that one room too many?

And what happens when 18 yr old goes off to Uni and after 3 yrs comes back 'home' to live?


OneFootInTheGrave Report 5 Mar 2013 15:27

I think this is going to cost a lot more than it will save, if people are able to find smaller accommodation in the private sector, and I repeat if, their rent will be probably be more than what their rent is now, demand pushes up prices, so their housing benefit will need to be increased - yet another half baked, hair-brained, ill thought out scheme.

Cannot wait till the budget, after the pastie and caravan tax fiasco's last year, who knows, Toilet Tax, Bath/Shower Tax, Garden Tax, Window Tax, the list of possibilities is endless ;-)


ChrisofWessex Report 5 Mar 2013 15:35

Couple on tv couple of days ago. She has a brain tumour, has to use an electric hospital bed, lots of medical equipment about, so room crammed. OH is fulltime carer, she cannnot even feed herself.

OH sleeps in the other room (2 bed house). They come under this tax?

Where is sense in that?


terryj Report 5 Mar 2013 16:08

government are saying that in the case of disabled people they can claim discrectionery housing benefit off the council.
the council will then have to make further cut backs to fund this


OneFootInTheGrave Report 5 Mar 2013 16:16

That case you refer to is terrible, unfortunately this governments ideology seems to say that anyone who is not working, anyone who receives any kind of benefits, anyone who lives in social housing, for whatever reason, are all at it and have to be punished.

Yes the benefit system is abused by some and those that abuse it have to be caught and punished. I would like to know the "actual percentage" out of the total number of people receiving benefits, of those that abuse it.

The way this government is going about reforming the benefit system reminds me of an episode of the spoof war based series "Ello Ello" where the local commandant wanted to know who in the village was responsible for something and nobody owned up so the commandant said if no one owns up he would shoot all the men in the village.


AnnMarieG Report 5 Mar 2013 16:51

Whoever it was who proposed this 'bedroom tax' does he or she live in a one bedroom house or flat.I think not. :-( :-(


OneFootInTheGrave Report 5 Mar 2013 17:32

Going off what is a very serious topic that will affect many vulnerable people :-(

I know what David Cameron's plan is, if you remember he wanted to reduce the number of MP's from 650 to 600.

Well like he does with his policies, he has changed his mind, he now wants to reduce them by 360, made up of 303 Conservative MP's and 57 Liberal Democrat MP's ;-)

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


~`*`Jude`*`~ Report 5 Mar 2013 18:06 is the link to 38Degrees if anyone is interested in signing the petition:))

l agree with all you say:)

Its horrendous, and needles to say l did'nt hear back from The Vine Show.
Maybe we all ought to send similar letter to Mr Cameron!!?



~`*`Jude`*`~ Report 5 Mar 2013 18:33

This might be useful for other petitions:)