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KittytheLearnerCook

KittytheLearnerCook Report 12 Apr 2013 14:30

We know several people who have relocated to other countries and they all have a better standard of living than we have or ever will have.

Their homes are now Spain, Canada and France.

I don't even want to ever move from here, the place I was born.................not very adventurous am I :-D

Kay????

Kay???? Report 12 Apr 2013 14:23


The heritage of my homeland is not one I would ever want to leave behind,,,,,,this is where I am, me,totally British to the core.

wisechild

wisechild Report 12 Apr 2013 13:43

Well I came to Spain to live with my husband. We could go to England & claim every benefit going as there is no additional help for pensioners in Spain, but we choose to stay here & struggle financially.
Which would you prefer us to do?.
Spain is now my adopted country & I owe it my loyalty.
&yes, the Spanish complain about all the foreigners who have flooded the country from Latin America & North Africa.
Most countries have problems with immigrants. It´s nothing new.

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 12 Apr 2013 08:35

Of course not Sylvia and it was nasty, and personal. But somebody else must have also taken exception to it as it was quickly RRd.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Apr 2013 07:03

I also do not ever see myself returning to the UK ....................

after all, we have lived here for 45 years, in this same little house for 41 years.

We have spent almost 2/3rds of our lives here, vs only 1/3 in England

We have more friends, of diverse ages, here than we now do in England ............. and all the ones in England are at least our age, and like us, beginning to fall apart!


It would be as difficult for us to move to England, find a suitable area to live, and then make friends, as it would for someone of the same age to move from England to Spain, Majorca, or wherever.

Plus our daughter, husband and grandchild would still be in this country.


We left the UK for a reason (job opportunities), stayed here for a reason (very good jobs, salaries and benefits), and our roots are now deep in this country.



no reason, though, to get slagged for that!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Apr 2013 06:57

That remark was very nasty ..........

......... but, for the record, I did not report it.

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 11 Apr 2013 22:26

Home is where the heart is.....and I am happy in my little corner of Wales :-)

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 11 Apr 2013 22:19

I didn't see Mays remark. I moved from England to Tenerife and can not see me returning to the UK in the near future. The main reason being the weather! I do not not like being cold or wet. I have had an operation here and one in England and the treatment I received here was easily as good as I received in England. We do not have any MRSA here. Paula said that after three weeks holiday she wants to get back to her own home and things and I feel the same when I go away. Moving isn't a holiday and your home and all your things are wherever you chose to live. I love to be able to go out for a walk at anytime of the year without a coat. To eat outside most days, to have my washing dried in an hour or so and best of all to be in good health free from coughs and colds etc. If England had Tenerife weather I would maybe go back. Basically where you live is up to the individual, freedom of choice.

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 11 Apr 2013 21:59

I did see that remark Sylvia, nasty wasn't it. But my feeling is that May is maybe aWUM returned from some time ago.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Apr 2013 21:38

May


A totally unnecessary, and very unpleasant remark to make


It is also considered very rude to shout ..........

......... in case you are not aware, all caps equates with shouting in the internet world.


All of us who live overseas have, or had, our own reasons for leaving .................... and all of us have our own reasons for staying overseas.


It is not up to you, or to anyone, to make any nasty comment about those decisions.


Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 15 Mar 2013 20:11

I am born English in England ,my parents are both English 1 born in England and one in India both to English parents both their parents 2 out of the 4 were born in Ireland :-D I think or have I skipped a gen :-S

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 15 Mar 2013 20:02

Were West Indians British subjects once they went from Africa and elswehere in 17th/18th centuries?

In which case, a lot of immigrant black people could now say exactly what Lynda has said. I met many young people last time I was in Wolverhampton (2001) who had four grandparents, all black and all born Wolverhampton in 1950's.

Just not sure if ancestors before that would be considered British subjects, even though born elsewhere. They certainly fought for British cause.

I guess the most "British" people are those who have been shuffled off to the fringes of the British Isles (or North Atlantic Islands as I believe the Irish call them).

I love the idea that we can live and work in France, Germany and Spain with few problems. Not always the case.

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 15 Mar 2013 19:24

I expect most Countries are much of a muchness, re foreigners, some love them, some hate them :-D

As for being true English, going back to 1700's I only have British ancestors, except for those who were born elsewhere, but were British subjects. I was born in England, Mum Dad, Nans and Grandads were also born here too.

I feel true English, but am more than happy to embrace everyone, I love different cultures, as long as they are decent human beings :-D

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 15 Mar 2013 18:30

Wonder how many indigidinous Spanish complain about all the foreigners living in their country???

The UK has always been a country that people come to, from the Romans etc., I would say that very few of us could claim to be true English etc.



Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 15 Mar 2013 17:46

Well said Lynda

I have to laugh at a friend of my sisters, granted he has worked all his life and has brought a house in Spain, fully intending to retire there, however what used to amuse me was he is one of the most bigotted racist man I have ever known, so when he talked ( and he did alot) of leaving dear old England as it was full of immigrants and they should send them back, I used to love to say so you are going over to Spain where you too will be a immigrant :-D

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 15 Mar 2013 16:04

I am extremely patriotic, love my Country, and was very proud to promote it.at the Olympics. I don't feel that the England has been taken away by anyone, it's still here.

I don't listen to the scaremongering of the red tops when they print that "a" woman somewhere wasn't allowed to put a flag in her window, or that "a" man was banned from celebrating St Georges day, because his Indian neighbour didn't approve, loada tosh. As long as you respect others, embrace the different cultures, and you'll get on with most people.

I sort of lived in Spain for a while, I travelled back and forth when my Dad was ill, he lived there, lovely village, friendly people, but things aren't good there, took 3 years to sell the apartment back in 2008.

If you love where you live, enjoy it, but for me home is where my family and <3 is.


:-D

Caroline

Caroline Report 15 Mar 2013 15:55

We don't all return for the NHS you know as good as it can be.
I've never put the UK down it has it's good and bad points like anywhere else.
Even since I left 17 yrs ago the UK has in many ways changed and not always for the better.
From over here it does seem like the EU shouts and the UK says sure no problem and can we pay for the chance too.....so yes it looks like Britain doesn't belong to the British any more.

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 15 Mar 2013 15:45

Like others have said. I love to go away for a month but wouldn't want to move permanently.

And much as we hear people putting UK down when they leave to live abroad. Why then do they return when they suffer ill health? I assume we then have something to offer them that they can't get where they are living :-S :-S So, the grass is not always greener?

Edit: I meant to say Uzzi, But Spain belongs to the EU as well.

Paula+

Paula+ Report 15 Mar 2013 15:37

I am like you GEORDIE after three weeks holiday I am really home sick, I love our holidays but equally love to get back to my own home. With all its faults I would not to live anywhere else. :-D

Caroline

Caroline Report 15 Mar 2013 15:35

Try moving further afield....Canada is good !!