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Summing up- Philpott trial

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Sharron

Sharron Report 6 Apr 2013 15:50

If she was under age then it was rape.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 6 Apr 2013 12:55

her claim of rape on a holiday,,,,,,was totally denided by her sister,,,,,

her take on it was-

*she was caught having sex with a man for money*.

but its like all cases like this they will only report or ask questions that will show all the defects,,,,,,,Dawn his sister states her hate for him cant take away he was a good dad to all his children and she a good mum,but have failed them at their most vunerable for the I want I will get father and a mother whos Sick Micks hold over her was so strong that she has been blinded by an utter selfish controling unstable man.

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 6 Apr 2013 12:32

Sharron I agree with your post @ 11.20 and I also agree the children would be well trained as well, the well published photo of him the children has been well studied and appears there is body laungage of mistrust from the children I dont doubt that photo and this case will be studied for years to come.

The joke of a press conference even alarmed the likes of me at the time and even I knew there just something that wasnt right, for a start he called it, the normal actions of the gulity and I can name 3 other cases were they the gulity parties have done the same, the look of the senior police officers face told the true story.

Her child abuse story was very poor defence and no doubt was expected from the prosecuting council.

Sharron

Sharron Report 6 Apr 2013 12:29

I think this was why they were expendable to him,he still had plenty and,of course,one of them wasn't even his.

They,like his women,were chattels.

Island

Island Report 6 Apr 2013 12:24

Sharron 10.25. Hit the nail on the head.

'he still OWNED a large number of children'

Your paragraph re mother and grandmothers death. Very interesting, food for thought. (not about philpot)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Apr 2013 12:09

she was vulnerable - but apparently her stories of sexual abuse as a child were unfounded - she was fair prey for someone like Philpott - he made her feel important

Sharron

Sharron Report 6 Apr 2013 12:06

She was vulnerable and bewildered and no doubt,extremely easy to train.

I wouldn't mind betting the children had learned not to cry as well. They would have been well practiced in not talking about what goes on at home too.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 6 Apr 2013 12:01


Go to the news items about them,,,,,,see when he called the press conference,,,

first words,,,,,,,,,give me a minuite,,,,tissue to eyes,

next words or there about,,,,,
we have donated our sons organs,to help another child,this will help take away some of our pain,,,,,,,,,****not we want anyone with information to come forward,*****

go look and enlarge their faces,,,,,,,,his are red raw,her face is painful and not a tear in any picture in her eyes,,,,,,,,,

plus on one the shot is taken showing their right,,,,,,,,,his arm goes round,,,,,,his hand tight on her shoulder,,then what appears a sign to follow his lead,,,,,,weep,,,,,,,,,but her eyes are bone dry,,,,,,,,,,


he wanted Lisa Wills its widely known,,,,,,,,,but did she also want Mosley?

Sharron

Sharron Report 6 Apr 2013 11:44

I am just hoping it brings narcissism to prominence and shows just how cruel and destructive it really is.

Maybe then those poor children will not have died entirely in vain.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Apr 2013 11:42

there's a new progrmme on the Philpotts on ITV this evening

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 6 Apr 2013 11:41

I suspect Mr Phillpot will be still be the controlling narcissist inside as he was outside. It is in his nature to be kingpin and I've no doubt he will find a circle of sycophants who will do his bidding.

Sharron

Sharron Report 6 Apr 2013 11:20

In a normal relationship.

You can be sure the reason he wanted his other partner and children back was about control and ownership and nothing to do with love.

Somehow the other girl had seen sense but this one had never worked it out.

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 6 Apr 2013 11:19

Well she certainly knew her own sense of duty Sharron, performing sex acts on their friend only days after her babies had died, she didnt want to do it but she did! On the tapes did she feel pleased with the praise her devoted husband had given her after the event by her reply " hmmmm" No it sounds like she was too engrossed in the TV , maybe their mate Mr Kyle was on. If she knew her place that well she would of lapped up such praise, its pretty obvious she is as thick as sh*** but even under his control her actions were not that of a normal Mother.

Sharron

Sharron Report 6 Apr 2013 10:25

I am not excusing her but,having been the victim of a narcissist myself, I would just like to point out that one of their controlling ploys is the atitude of " I don't feel hurt or despair from the situation so therefore those feelings are worthless and you must not feel them".

His degree of control could well have been far greater than it is possible to imagine.

He would not have felt much grief at all,he still owned a large number of children,he was still the big man andthought she could replace hers fairly easily when they had beaten the justice system.

She will not be hurt because it did not suit him for her to be so.

This is an example of how they operate.

My narcissistic mother found my beloved grandmother,who had looked after me every day,dead on the floor when I was six.We would meet people in the street and she would stand holding my hand and telling them how she had found her.Later, she would rip into me verbally for crying loudly when she was doing so and showing her up.

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 6 Apr 2013 09:55

I have to agree with Ann from Cardiff, if she would of shown the slightest bit of remorse instead of lying through her rotten teeth I would of tried to feel some compassion for her.

Julia

Julia Report 6 Apr 2013 08:44

At least, they were not out last night persuing their usual Friday night dirty filthy hobby.
I was kinda hoping she got to share a cell with Rose West, not Fostern Hall, which is only a stones throw from Derby.

Julia in Derbyshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Apr 2013 20:19

she's obviously as thick as a plank and I would have had some sympathy for her had she shown any real emotion over the loss of those children, had she sat with her eldest boy when he was dying instead of ordering a Chinese takeaway and joining in a food fight - so not only thick as a plank but devoid of any real love for her children - and such lovely children they were- I think their little faces will stay in my mind and heart forever

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 5 Apr 2013 20:17

Just wondering if the mothers of the other children have changed their name by deed poll.

Sharron

Sharron Report 5 Apr 2013 20:08

It has occurred to me that Mrs Philpott (I can't spell her name) was not very bright,had been with him from a very young age and was completelycontrolled by him.

I doubt she had the mental capacity to think the situation through and probably could not have done a lot to prevent it. It also looks like she did her best to look after her children.

She,however, has lost all of her children. He,on the other hand,the mastemind behind the whole dreadful affair, still has eleven.

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 5 Apr 2013 19:46

If PM has gone to Wakefield nick,he won't be able to bully anyone as the lifers look out for the nobheads that come in and think they are Mr Big..

He will have to certainly keep his mouth shut in there or he will get it filled and it won't be with food.