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Brenda from Wales

Brenda from Wales Report 17 Apr 2013 13:27

Paula...how I agree.
Life can have its ups and downs...it's how you handle it

I have had very bad times in life changing circumstances,but you have to get on with it..moaning doesn't help...when the going gets tough,the tough get going.
That's my motto.
Dwelling on a situation makes everyone miserable.

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 17 Apr 2013 13:26

It seems that some people were glad to see her go, others will mourn her........but have we got short memories?

for different reasons, maybe,

I recall celebrations over the demise of Sadaam Hussein,
some were glad to see him go,others will mourn him...

Paula+

Paula+ Report 17 Apr 2013 13:10

:-D :-D :-D :-D I like Elkie Brooks (born Elaine Bookbinder) ;-)

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 17 Apr 2013 12:55

:-D@Paula

Roy

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 17 Apr 2013 12:55

All dressed in black
She won't be coming back
Fool if you think it's over
They've just begun ...

Paula+

Paula+ Report 17 Apr 2013 12:45

@ Porkie_ Pie

Roy I have to agree with so many of your comments, but your post 17 Apr 2013 08:35 "With respect if people are still heavily bruised by Strike action nearly 30 years ago then shame on them,"

I feel this to be so very true of many people that were affected by Mrs Thatcher and her government. Some people will use any excuse to apportion blame, and do not consider their own actions may have something to do with the way their lives have been affected. However so many of people (me and my family included) got on with re-building our lives and came through it stronger and better people for it.

A quote from Dr Who “The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” ;-)

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 17 Apr 2013 12:43

As one commentator put it, the service today in St Paul's Cathedral was a fitting tribute for the woman who became this country's first female Prime Minister, it was not a day for discussing her polices - those discussions are for a later date.

R.I.P.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2013 12:42

at least we are able to protest in this country if we wish

Dermot

Dermot Report 17 Apr 2013 12:18

Silence please!

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 17 Apr 2013 11:18

*mind you he made some good suggestions
people may throw lumps of coal or bottles of milk
even i didnt think of that*

Oh dear the mentality of some. I hope our children have not been taught to think so evily. Whatever will anyone stoop to next. The mere thought is more than childish it is positively evil and smacks of hooliganism.

RIP Mrs T

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 17 Apr 2013 10:15

show some respect
her days of politics where well over
who died without her family around her
RIP Mrs Thatcher :-(

Barbra

Barbra Report 17 Apr 2013 10:03

Never mind the politcs for now a family & freinds are attending the funeral of Mrs Thatcher .RIp the first lady PM respect her courage & determination as the first Lady PM Barbra

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 17 Apr 2013 09:25

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00hqlc4

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 17 Apr 2013 09:21

Please can this bickering stop until after the funeral?

I was no fan but I think some silence on the matter until the funeral is over would be respectful, I see coverage is beginning on TV.

Let's all shut up about it for a couple of hours, shall we?

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 17 Apr 2013 09:13

John, "You keep making that point about barrowloads of compo, Roy"

WRONG I have said ONCE that, One thing that's not been said is that these areas affected with redundancies particularly with the miners who had the biggest redundancy pay packet in history

Why do I keep having to repeat myself after you mis quote, and or take my posts out of context.

Roy :-|

Terryj Back on your normal militant form i see,
You appear to need a new hearing aid, The police never made any such suggestion

terryj

terryj Report 17 Apr 2013 09:00

just heard a police spokesman state that the protesters will be put in a quite place out of the way

thatchers police state is alive and well

mind you he made some good suggestions
people may throw lumps of coal or bottles of milk
even i didnt think of that

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 17 Apr 2013 08:55

You keep making that point about barrowloads of compo, Roy. It doesn't explain the bruising 30 years on. Yes, many are financially quite well off today, but the worry is for families, communities. Nothing much to keep the young people in the valleys today.

Long memories in mining communities as you will know. Families still looked down on because an ancestor broke ranks in 1926. Families preferred to starve in 1920's rather than break ranks. That defiant spirit remains today - as they go to work in light industry and the service sector. The pit head baths are a supermarket now.

Compensation would never compensate for the loss of a way of life. However hard and unhealthy coal mining was, it was being streamlined, new technology. Balance sheets need to also be looked at in terms of human accountancy rather than cold £p. Generation after generation had worked to create a vibrant and fairly profitable industry. They expected some hope for their children in the area they had come to love.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 17 Apr 2013 08:35

With respect if people are still heavily bruised by Strike action nearly 30 years ago then shame on them,

Things happen to all of us in life but at some point you have to pick yourself up brush yourself off and start again that's been the case since time began

One thing that's not been said is that these areas affected with redundancies particularly with the miners who had the biggest redundancy pay packet in history and most chose to spend it on new cars holidays and down the pub where they spent hours crying in their beer rather than doing something constructive with the money, So I have absolutely no sympathy with them who given the chance and the finance to make a difference to their life but never, Plenty Did use the opportunity and started their own businesses

Roy

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 17 Apr 2013 08:22

Today Baroness Thatcher will be laid to rest, according to some she divided a nation when she was alive - and her death has resurrected these divisions.

I am hoping that the funeral will not be disrupted, and that any protests, as there will be protests, will be quiet and dignified. Alas in this country like many other countries, there are those who think the answers to problems and divisions can only be solved by displays of anarchy, and I fear we will see some of those today.

Any person who serves in the highest political office in the land, the office of Prime Minister, should receive some public recognition reflecting their length of time in office and their achievements.

However, in my view, the grandeur and cost of the funeral for Baroness Thatcher, is that at this time of austerity and cutbacks, when many ordinary decent people are having difficulty in making ends meet, the expense of this funeral is not justified and many will be angered by this.

I feel a more appropriate funeral would have been for her coffin to lie overnight in the Chapel of St Mary Undercroft in the Palace of Westminster, and on the day of the funeral for it to be taken the full journey to St Paul's Cathedral in a hearse, perhaps a horse drawn hearse, and when the hearse arrived at St Paul's Cathedral there could be a small Guard of Honour waiting to escort the coffin into the cathedral.

I said at the beginning, that I feared that we would see some displays by the anarchy crowd today, my message to them is, are you totally off your heads, do you not realise that such actions will only play into the hands of a government who will grab anything they can use to back up their ideology that everyone on benefits are layabouts and scroungers :-|

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 17 Apr 2013 08:21

I believe there was a private service just for family and close political friends last night. It was pretty widely publicised and I have not seen mention of any protests. And there will be a private cremation today after event and that should go without incident.

Although Roy talks of a busload of miners going down to honour her from Yorkshire (and that will probably be main billing in the right wing papers tomorrow), I doubt many are going down from areas still heavily bruised by Strike nearly 30 years ago.

May be wrong, but suspect police will be monitoring local people and their rent a gob friends who might try to make a political protest today against David Cameron. Benefit cap, bedroom tax protests are to the fore, and this event and teh Marathon are easy targets. Not the rabble suggested, but in my mind very misguided protestors if they use an event like this. Eyes of the world on Britain, inward investment, tourism, new jobs etc. It is not a football match where many turn their backs as a protest.

Sincerely hope it is an uplifting day for those who wish to remember our late Prime Minister, Baroness Thatcher.