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Will we see more bad news buried ?

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terryj

terryj Report 17 Apr 2013 18:55

some of the increase will be people forced off disability onto jsa
they only ever refer to people entitled to unemployment benefit
after 6 months if your partner is working you no longer get jsa
you are still unemployed but dont count
add to that all the people who have had to take part time work but would rather work full time and the figures would rocket even more

the other fiddle that going is the jobs created figure they transfer jobs from the council to private companys same people doing the same job but x number of jobs have been created in the private sector

as they say there are lies, damm lies and statistics

PatinCyprus

PatinCyprus Report 17 Apr 2013 16:24

Should put bad news on here more often, pound gone up over 1 cent since I put about it dropping against the euro.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2013 15:09

the Burberry factory here in Wales was closed years ago - more's the pity

PatinCyprus

PatinCyprus Report 17 Apr 2013 14:43

Minis to be made in India, pound dropping quickly against the Euro.

On the other hand Burberry sales and shares are up. Shows where the money is.

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 17 Apr 2013 14:26

I can never understand how they calculate the figures, no doubt we will get some kind of spin on these figures to show that George Osborne and Iain Duncan Smith's plans are working, just as we will get upbeat spin on the IMF lowering growth predictions :-S

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 17 Apr 2013 14:11

There are usualy fluctuation in figures on employment but what concerns me is how over time the figures have been manipulated by changing the criteria on how the jobless total and those in work are calculated,

I'm no mathematician but your post highlights that with people without work up by 70,000 how can they then say the number of people in work fell by 2,000

If the number in work fell by 100 then surly the number out of work would go up by 100

The differential is dictated ( i presume ) is made up of those out of work who are claiming unemployment and those who are not

Roy

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 17 Apr 2013 13:50

With all the focus on Baroness Thatcher's funeral today, will this get the attention it merits?

The unemployment total has risen for the second month in a row while average pay increases were found to be at their weakest on record.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the number of people without work rose 70,000 in the three months to the end of February to reach 2.56 million - pushing the jobless rate up to 7.9%.

The number of people in work fell by 2,000 over the period to just under 30 million - the first time the figure has dipped since autumn 2011.

There were 900,000 out of work for more than a year, an 8,000 increase on the three months to November, while the number of unemployed 16 to 24-year-olds rose by 20,000 to 979,000.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 12 Apr 2013 21:46

They're only interested in 'Tory' areas, Sue,
Just realised why every other council estate around Winchester has 54 buses a day, and we have 9.
Tory council, with 2 labour enclaves, one of which is our estate :-P

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 12 Apr 2013 20:48

In Yorkshire we haven't got enough social housing for ourselves never mind sending people up here.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 12 Apr 2013 20:12

....so where are those who have to pay bedroom tax to go?
Also explains that quiet transfer of people to the north of the country.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Apr 2013 15:53

plenty more to be buried I'm sure

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 12 Apr 2013 15:44

With all media eyes and minds on the death and funeral arrangements of Lady Thatcher, the Greater London Authority slipped out some rather alarming figures this week. The tables show that the number of new homes for social renting started in London has plummeted from 11,329 in 2010/11 to just 1,672 in 2012/13.

http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/mira-barhillel-affordable-homes-a-good-day-to-bury-bad-news-8569777.html