General Chat

Mental Health Tribunal - he's asking to go to prison rather than stay in Ashworth - he has no right to ask for anything - let him rot

yep let him rot
and when he dies let him rot a bit more :-(

He should be sent to hell

if the bastard wants to starve himself to death, then let him!!!

he's done 47 years what's the point of keeping him alive for a few more?

see we're all singing from the same hymn sheet here

Every time he hits the headlines he causes nothing but grief, torment, and distress for the families of those he murdered, he is sick in the head and evil, so keep force feeding him - but feed cyanide down the tube.

The prison/hospital staff shouldn't have had to force feed him..they should have let him starve to death.
And we would have had to pay less money to keep him in there and for the staff to look after him.

Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Romans 12:17-21

some times that is easier said than done Rollo

how true!!!

That is the whole point.

That said the man is fairly obviously insane to the point that I am surprised his application is being heard. If he were to be transferred to an ordinary jail he would not last long in any case whatever the security.

I thought his remarks that his crimes were "trivial" suggests he has not really got sufficient grip on reality to be considered sane. The path to redemption must start with an understanding and acceptance of the wrong done. Ian Brody is far from that.

As to murderers in general I cannot see any obvious moral reason why they should be released though it does save the tax payer money. Neither can I see gradations in the degree of murder. Dead is dead.

It is strange that over the years sentences for all manner of crime have been gradually increased so that they are on average twice those prevailing in the EU at great cost to the public purse and little effect on crime. The puzzling exception is murder.

Maybe he should be kept alive against his will as he clearly hates it.

A bit of suffering for him is nothing compared to the agony he caused his victims and their loved ones.

I agree Rollo, life sentences should be given to all murderers and they should stay behind bars until they die.

Totally agree with you Kitty.

Life should mean Life not bleddy 15 yrs..murderers should bein the Nick until they die without any privileges..ie no tv,cd players,dvd players or carpets on the floor.

He has lost his appeal to be allowed to be sent to an ordinary prison

Can I sing a bit of descant to this hymn sheet please and ask you to read what I say before arguing a point I have not made.

I was pleased to see narcissism mentioned with regard to his character because it has brought a little more notice to what is evidently a more common personality disorder than is generally accepted.

It is just this, a personality disorder, not a personal choice. As you know, I have been the victim of a person suffering from this very disorder and my opinion is that it should be better recognized by society who could then take the necessary precautions to protect individuals, including their children and potential children from these badly damaged people.

If he really wanted to starve himself he wouldn't be eating toast and making himself soup - and he'd whip that feeding tube out.

He's not going to say where Keith is - as if he would remember anyway.
It's one big power trip for Brady. It's time to let him fade away.

Thanks for that Sharron, I did think he had some sort of obsession with himself.

The Judge Robert Atherton, who headed the three-person tribunal at Ashworth, said:-

"The tribunal has concluded that Mr Ian Stewart Brady continues to suffer from a mental disorder which is of a nature and degree which makes it appropriate for him to continue to receive medical treatment, and that it is necessary for his health and safety and for the protection of other persons that he should receive such treatment in hospital, and that appropriate medical treatment is available for him."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23099582

It is no more than he deserves. Reading his comments about his horrific crimes and how trivial they were to his warped mind made me feel sick.

Who cares where he is or if hes mad or not ...its still costing the tax payers thousands to keep him alive ....

shut the door and leave him to the four walls

The longer he stays alive the more he suffers. I hope he lives to over 100.
His partner Myra Hindley was never a happy woman despite the efforts of misguided do-gooders like the pathetic Lord Longford. Death was too good for her and it would be too good for Brady, let him live with a tube stuffed up his nose for ever.