General Chat

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This is not a thread to suggest we do or do not, although by all means state your opinion.

My question is would it act as a deterrent as most killers don't think they will be brought to justice.


Would the little USA gang member wannabe in the UK think about the result carrying a knife might have?

Would a paedophile be put off committing his or her crime?

Would the oik waving a gun or knife under the nose of a shop assistant think it could happen to him?

Yes it would be satisfying for those who wanted justice and there would be no repeat offenders, but do you think it would deter?

It didn't seem to work very well the last time.

it didn't, and mistakes were made - thinking of poor Timothy Evans who was wrongly hanged with Reginald Christie the main witness against him, when in fact Christie was the perpertrator

i think it should be for peadophiles, but like has been said mistakes are made how could we be 100% sure they were guilty

You only have to look to America where they still have capital punishment in many states to see just how effective it is.

No it is not a deterrent.

And 1 person hanged for a crime they did not commit is 1 person too many.

make a life sentence mean life - never walk the street again

I agree with AnnC.

I don't agree with capital punishment, but life should be their entire life and no luxuries either.

xx

All those mistakes were long ago...There wasn't the technology there is now to help prove these crimes....I say yes to hanging and bring back other punishments...They made me a better person....£25,000 per annum..Car and driver and I'd do the job... Tax free and all expenses paid without any quibble... If you can't beat 'em join 'em...LES...

Leslie - it doesn't seem so long ago that the 'Birmingham Six' et al would have been facing the death penalty.

They were all 'lucky' that it was not in force then.

No it's not a deterrent, that has been proven by the crime figures in the US states and other countries that still have the death penalty.

I don't believe it is a deterrent and I am, and always have been, against the death penalty.

Even with modern technology, mistakes can still be made, or evidence can be inconclusive. Modern offenders are much more careful about not leaving physical traces. 'Old fashioned' detective work is still needed.

Never believed there is any evidence that the death penalty would stop these crimes. Thinking about one of the worst criminals of my generation - Ian Brady - a truly evil man.

He would have loved to be executed. I believe. Why give these evildoers the favour of a quick end. If a criminal would ever be put off his mindless and disgusting crimes, surely rotting in a prison cell for 40 years would be more of a disincentive that a quick death.

exactly - leave them to rot

It seems to me that sending them to prison doesn't work either. They just seem to learn how to be better criminals in there. I don't know what the answer is though. :-(

but if life really did mean life, then any skills they learned in prison won't be much use to them will it

Yes need to invest in prisons out in the North sea, a bit like Alcatraz and put them in there for life.

Carol

i agree carol, with your idea

there is plenty of disued oil rigs they could be put on

then forgotton ;-)

I heard an interesting programme on the radio the other day, talking about what to do with long term prisoners, one of the guests, I thought had a good idea. Those who murder, serial killers and the like, instead of just leaving them to languish, pry into there lives, to see if it could be possible to find out why they did what they did, was it a mental illness, upbringing, something that they saw, something that happened to them, or were they born like that?

Fascinating stuff delving into why some people do what they do.

As for hanging, never ever will it brought back, and that's a good thng

I've always favoured disused oil rigs - nice views :-D