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CupCakes

CupCakes Report 15 Jul 2013 13:24

Sounds to good to be true

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23306092

Fingers crossed :-0

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 15 Jul 2013 13:28

looks good to me :-D :-D

♥†۩ Carol   Paine ۩†♥

♥†۩ Carol Paine ۩†♥ Report 15 Jul 2013 13:53

Me too...

£500 a week for couples/lone parents = £26,000 a year

£350 for single people = £17,500 a year

........
State Pension for someone who has paid Tax & NI all their working life:

£110.15 per week + £5,727.80 a year
...........

:-S

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 15 Jul 2013 13:56

Hardly
If you live in the south your only alternative is to move up north to be able to afford to live. There are very few decent paying jobs in London in fact in the paper today some are paying less than £8.00 ph.

So your housing benefit is cut. You can no longer afford to live in the private rented accomodation you have lived in for donkeys years. You are now homeless. The government has save money (yippee) And now the council has to pay to put you into B & B. All the governement has done is save themselve money but passed the buck on to the local councils.

Now you can only be put into B & B for a certain amount of time then you have to be given somewhere to live ie a council home. Well there ain't many in London.

What is going to happen now is the North/South divide is going to get worse, and many southerners forced to move up north to look for cheaper accomodation and jobs, which we know are virtually non-existent in some towns.

So now does it look so good.

The money saved by the government is less than 0.01% of the overall debt we have. And we must remember that Pensioners cost us far more than the unemployed. Unemployed take about 1% of DWP monies, Pensoners take 10%.

So now does it look so good.

When your beloved Boro (I am assuming somewhere like Middlesbrough) is overrun with people from the South looking for jobs and homes will you think it so good then.

This is a short term fix, which will in fact fix nothing.

If you live in London whether employed or not, private accomodation is on average £700,00 pw. Whilst we are told on average around £560.00 per month in some parts of northern England.

I feel the government is yet again blaming the , and we are all falling for it. Yes there are some families who have no intention of working, but they are a minority, not the majority as we would be led to believe.

Calm, Calm, Calm....... Its the heat...... :-S

Merlin

Merlin Report 15 Jul 2013 13:59

Some how I think Priorities are Wrong,Needs a serious re think,unless of course the Government are going to give Pensioners the Equivelent. :-( :-( Not much hope of that. :-|

♥†۩ Carol   Paine ۩†♥

♥†۩ Carol Paine ۩†♥ Report 15 Jul 2013 14:01

DazedConfused

I live in Sussex ... that's South of London

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 15 Jul 2013 14:08

i dont object to people migrating to the Boro
its a much cheeper place to live
decent houses at an affordable price :-D

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 15 Jul 2013 14:14


"£500 a week for couples/lone parents "

Speaking as a 'lone parent' I don't know where these figures come from, but I sure as hell did not get that kind of money!



WHat happens when you lose your job and can't meet the rent?

what happens when you are too ill to be able to work...but classed as 'fit for work ' by ATOS?

What happens when you give up work to look after a disabled parent? But still need to live in athe same high rental area to do so?

What happens when you move out of the area so that you can afford the lower rents but lose the 'support system' of family, who 'could' do the child care if you found a job?

The problem is, as always, that generally 'good ideas' like this take no account of individuals or individual circumstances.

50% of those affected will be lone parents..... but there is, for many of those, STILL no effective CSA, still very few jobs that will pay enough to cover rents and childcare ( esp in London) ...and if there ARE...it still doesn't mean that a huge amount of money will be saved because those parents in part time work at basic wage will STILL have their wages topped up with working tax credits and housing benefit.

I'm not saying cuts shouldn't be made, but it isn't as 'obvious' as it looks.

Budgie Rustler

Budgie Rustler Report 15 Jul 2013 14:22

Carol.
l like your equating ... ie £500/£350 as against state pension £110. :-)

How about euthanasia for all those reaching 75? or has this government already got that in the pipeline. :-D :-D :-D

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 15 Jul 2013 14:29

Budgie
i think that idea could well catch on ;-) ;-)

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 15 Jul 2013 14:41

75 will be ok for me, it should just about avoid the long slow decline that is potentialy much worse than a quick departure , but give me just enough time to pay off the mortgage. :-D

LollyWithSprinklez

LollyWithSprinklez Report 15 Jul 2013 15:02

The equation between the cap for the unemployed and pensions is unfair,
the cap includes housing benefit, whereas the basic pension is just that - the basic,
housing benefit & pension credit is not included in the figure!

I fully accept that pensioners get a raw deal when it comes to the taxation of private pensions and the amount saved before they qualify for any top ups, but it is not reasonable to pit one group against the other.

Joeva

Joeva Report 15 Jul 2013 15:12

Did anyone watch this program last Thursday.?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b036yrm8/Nick_and_Margaret_We_All_Pay_Your_Benefits_Episode_1/

I found it very interesting and a bit of an 'eye opener' on the subject of benefits that people receive.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 15 Jul 2013 15:15

The Labour party is now talking about it being our 'Human Right' to claim benefits.

(Don't suppose that means we will all get it!!!!!)

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 15 Jul 2013 16:19

I live in the south and work.
My income is lower than the benefit received by a single householder on maximum benefit - mainly caused by all admin losing £1000 pay 5 years ago, during a 'restructure' - ie lower the pay of the lower earners and increase the pay of the management.
AND I've been on a pay freeze for 4 years.
Due to get a pay rise next year - 1% WHOOPEE!!!

...now, what's 1% of p*ss all?........

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 15 Jul 2013 16:20

The government are talking out of their backsides again.

From a pensioner that doesn't claim any benefits.

Dame*Shelly*(

Dame*Shelly*("\(*o*)/") Report 15 Jul 2013 16:51

same here maggie income is lower than £500 but to high to clame any benefits
government seem to forget that working peolpe have to pay full cost for every think

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 15 Jul 2013 17:00

...just wondered, if my wage is lower than the benefit, whether I may be able to claim benefit.
Bet I cant!! Bet the government forgot about low earners claiming!!!
My take-home pay is the same as it was when I first started work here 11 years ago!!

Of course utility bills, public transport fares & rent have risen exponentially

♥†۩ Carol   Paine ۩†♥

♥†۩ Carol Paine ۩†♥ Report 15 Jul 2013 18:18

Always worth a try Maggie

https://www.gov.uk/apply-universal-credit

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 15 Jul 2013 18:35

I've tried it - I try it every year, but may now be entitled to workers tax credits - but need a pay slip to check.
I bet the 1% pay 'rise' will put it just out of reach :-(