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Usually, the term "making indecent images" does not mean actually taking a photograph or anything like that. It just means viewing something on the internet (for example).

i find i very sad that the man has gone somewhere he shoudnt have.

Until we hear the evidence we wont know exactly what he did .

A bit of a shattered illusion on the man but personally I would prefer to hear what he is alleged to have done first

As I said earlier Cynthia..... "You may well be shocked when you first hear this sort of news, but if you sit back think about it, you shouldn't be shocked, these people are just names"

We obviously see things differently, because I don't regard so called celebs as people who could let me down, they are all just entertainers, they aren't people I take much interest in, other than when I watch them perform.
Some maybe more likeable than others, but I still don't class them as people I know, because I don't know them.

I also don't like or dislike most performers for how they act when performing, for instance just because someone uses bad language in their act, I wouldn't assume they were bad people, equally, someone who is gushy and sweet in their act, I wouldn't assume were nice, in life, and I don't find swearing offensive, if used in an performance, where I know I could expect it.

What I do find offensive though are those who outwardly are Snow White, but inwardly are really The Evil Witch, give me a swearer any day

Tess - as you say that making the images is even worse.

I feel that the modern world with all the technology encourages these people.

That any child be hurt mentally or physically in order to give gratification to a type of adult is beyond me and feel that short sentences should not be given in view of age but sentenced as appropriate to the crime. The victim has to live a lifetime with the hurt.

I think in terms of 'shock' this case perhaps affects more than some of the other cases simply because many of us watched him from when we were children and saw him as 'fun and kindly' throughout. It takes away a bit from your own confidence in being able to make the right call on people?

As far as performers go you know it is an act for the audience, but some genuinely are just what they appear to be.

I personally hope it is not true, there have been accusations against people where they are subsequently found to be innocent.

ChrisofWessex - even worse than what?

Surely sexual assault is worse?

Making an indecent image does not mean taking a picture it is merely an umbrella term and usually means viewing an indecent image online, ie visiting a webpage.

Because when you visit a webpage, the images are (in normal computer setups) automatically stored on your computer it is given the term "making an indecent image".

Every single member on here "makes" images on a daily basis because every single web page they visit stores information (including pictures/images) on the computer used.

This is the first time I have ever seen or heard a word against Rolf Harris.

There was something about Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall that made me not quite like them and Gary Glitter was certainly odd. Jonathan King too had something about him.

It was quite a shock to read Stella's post. Hearing Rolf Harris being blue must be as shocking as hearing the Queen fart!

Errol, I am the first to admit that I am not computer literate - I gathered from Tessa that Rolf Harris had made illicit images rather than download, I thought that this meant he had put images on pc.

However I would point out to you that I would have thought that if the rest of my post had been read; it was obvious that I, in no way, condone abuse - mental or physical of any child.

I will not say what I would like to see done to these abusers when found guilty.

I would term sexual assault as both mental and sexual abuse.

ChrisofWessex I was not suggesting that at all - just wanted to clarify what "making images" means from a legal not IT point of view.
"Making" is not necessarily a deliberate action.
Sorry if it comes across as otherwise.

OK. We will move on

Errol,
thanks for informing me what the term "making indecent images" means.

I had taken the term quite literally. (as you probably guessed).

I had therefore that the "making" he is accused of WAS a deliberate action - and therefore even worse than downloading (or finding) images online.

Now I am wiser - but I bet that a lot of other people made the same (incorrect) assumption that I did.

We live and learn.

When this first came up a couple of months ago, I mentioned it to my brother, who was as gobsmacked as I was, then proceeded to say "nudge, nudge, wink, wink, Two little boys eh. ;-) ;-) ;-)
Personally, he was never a particular favourite of mine, but would agree that he never came across as being quite as slimy as Stuart Hall & Jimmy Saville.