General Chat

I know a woman who always does her grocery shopping online.

She works in the local supermarket!

:-D

Maybe at the end of her working day she just wants to go home.

Like Karen, I do my shopping online and this week, I forgot to ask Tesco not to bring carrier bags.
It was no problem as we emptied the bags upon delivery ,and the delivery men took them away again

On the subject of online shopping with Tesco
on a 1st online order.... they give a £12 discount if over £50, or £15 discount if it's over £60.

I hadn't realised that it was my daughter who registered the first time we ordered, so I registered again under my own name and email.
Even though the delivery address was the same, and payment was made on the same card, I still got the discount again

There are 5 adults in this house and theoretically, we could get 3 more discounted online deliveries???

Haven't read all the posts but my view is stop making the bags and people will take bags with them for shopping, it seems to me that if there is a problem with something the answer is put the price up or put a price on it, it doesn't work because the bags will still be dumped, but if they aren't there then problem solved, a bit harsh maybe but It is what I think.

John, in answer to your question "Do supermarkets in Wales charge 5p for each bag they bring home deliveries in?" .....well, as I said in my post on the previous page, with Tesco, when doing grocery shopping online, there was the choice for having your delivery with or without plastic bags. When I ordered my mum's groceries, I opted out, and her shopping would be delivered in a plastic crate.

When I worked at Tescos in the 70's in the south of England, carrier bags were 3p each and noone complained about the cost!

I dont object paying 5p if the money is going to a good cause.
I recycle my bags for different things. Bathroom, kids bedrooms, lounge, swimming, ashes from the fire etc.

So i do not throw them away until they have been reused.

The issue of people disposing of them properly is a different issue that charging wont make any difference.

People throw away litter irresponsibly because they are lazy and cant be bothered to find a bin.

At school, I watch the children at break times unwrap their playpiece and unbelieveably some just drop the wrapper on the ground until I ask them to pick it up. You should see the look on some of their faces!!

All of us have been brought up differently. Some of us will take our own bags, some will not but will recycle the ones we bring home.

Some of us have respect and will always dispose of our litter correctly and some will not.

I personally dont like the huge bags for life when i do a weekly shop because of their size, they hold more shopping but this makes the bag far too heavy to carry and not good for the back.

Re the idea of neighbourhood shopping, you would need business insurance me thinks as the usual social, domestic and pleasure would not cover you. Also to shop for ten people based on what i buy, you would need a mini bus to hold all the shopping lol.

Florence
In an increasingly windy hebrides!

Yes, they should do it sooner I think. I will miss using them as bin liners for my kitchen bin, but buying bin liners will be cheaper than 5p each. I already use a clean large bag for life for any clothes as those normal size carriers can be too small. I'm one of those people who don't put many heavy items in a bag because I get a bad back if I try to lift more.

I don't think it will be as effective as they think though, what's 5p a bag to folk who drive large petrol gobbling vehicles and the mothers who spend a fortune on fancy coffees in cafes. The revenue to charities will be good, but I would do away with them in shops altogether. Don't get me started on packaging!!

About time. I think it's a shame it's not earlier than 2015 to be honest. I wonder how many bags will end up in landfill by then.

we have been paying forplastic bags in wales for years,but what gets me is,you can go into a store,pay£100 for a coat,and then have to pay 20p for a large bag to carry it in,also the bags have the shops name on them,so your paying them to advertise their shop. :-D

South Africa banned plastic bags in 2003. Having been there and seen the problem they had our problem is nowhere that bad.

This is an extract from the link.........

"The legislation means shoppers will either have to take bags with them when they go shopping, or buy new, thick, stronger plastic bags that are easier and more profitable to recycle.

According to the South African Government the country uses eight billion bags a year."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3013419.stm

I have come onto this thread late I think....................I always carry a nylon shopping bag in my handbag should I need to pick something up from the supermarket. Plus if I know I am going shopping I have various jute bags which I take out with me.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can go for their weekly shop, and have no bags at all! The woman in front of me took 20 bags [I counted] for her shopping, putting about 2 items in each. She then had the gall to say the bags would come in handy for her bins at home. Buy a pack of bin liners you scrooge, you spent £200 on shopping!

:-D No, I do know that, Rose. And posters on here rush to do their best if they see a poster in trouble - same thing really.

I am terrible as a shopper. Never remember to take my bags so spend time deciding how many Carwyn bags I need and meekly paying the surcharge.

To be honest, it is usually 10p for two bags for quite a large shop, so not that bothered. Am not one of those very cost conscious people who spend £10 driving round to find the cheapest petrol in the region. And causing the village garage to close in the process. :-(

don't give up on the neighbourliness John, it is still alive and well as I have witnessed over the last few days. Neighbours helping with shopping, ordering online for someone without a computer etc.

:-D

Yes, I think my neighbourly solution has been bllown out of the water. It was a response to this complaint of using too many bags for supermarket home deliveries.

It would be nice to save the planet, but perhaps it is too difficult. And, in any case, aren't those 5p flimsies bio-degradable anyway. If so, we are not likely to sink in a sea of carrier bags in 20 years time.

Do supermarkets in Wales charge 5p for each bag they bring home deliveries in?

RamblingRose - good points and I would add that there could be unforeseen consequences in respect of car insurance, i.e. are you being paid by others to provide a service.

When SIL comes to visit from Wales she goes back with a pile of carrier bags.

The problem is plastic bags.

There isn't a problem putting shopping in paper bags, used to happen before they came up with plastic bags.

.................quite often see men in the supermarket with an old bag..... :-D :-D :-D

HID normally takes his Tesco canvas shopping bags with him when he is actually going shopping...but he quite often pops into Morrisons on his way home from work for a few bits and pieces....so no bag.

He will now have to remember to keep a bag in the car or walk home with the trolley instead.

Daughter lives in a village with a small baby....she doesn't drive so shopping would be a nightmare for her catching the bus with nappies and whatever else she needs.

Other daughter works for Tesco as a "picker" on a Saturday so at least it keeps people in employment.

So people in Wales have to pay for their bags...maybe they should pay for their prescriptions as well then.....a lot more than a 5p bag :-D

But the problem with your idea John is that

a) you have to be part of a community ( and you have to want to be!). I really don't want my neighbours to know exactly the contents of my shop every week...nor they me I expect! I had enough of that in the village whenever I went into the corner shop it was an interrogation on" what do vegetarians eat ?" :-0 :-P

b) you have to rely on someone who is doing it for free ( or petrol money) and is therefore not necessarily willing or available when YOU want your shopping, they could be ill, away, working, fed up with you lol.

c) why ? when you can pay a very small amount to have it professionally delivered, on the day and at the time of your choice, and with the ability to accept or refuse subsitutes if they haven't got exactly what you have asked for. it keeps one vehicle on the road delivering to a considerable number of people at once, but with proper facilities on board ( ie cold storage!)...who want's half melted frozen stuff because the 'designated shopper' has detoured or delivered everyone's shopping before yours?

I wish they'd done deliveries when my Mum was still alive, it would have made life so much easier for her. She had to wait until we could go for her.

Ironic when you think my Nan had a twice weekly delivery from "Thomas the grocer" in the 1960s.

Thankyou, Guinevere. Neither of those :-) Shopping habits change. Women would once never go to Howells or Browns or Harrods without a hat. Now even the most fashionable ladies walk round bear-headed (edit bare-headed) pulling a wheelie bin whilst clothes shopping.