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5 Jul 2014 20:48 |
I am trying to find an ancestor of mine named "John Coppin" who was born around 1832. I know that he had a wife called Louisa and children called Harry (born around 1864), Frederick (born around 1866), Louisa (born around 1868), and Charles (born 1870)
We are struggling to find John as a child, to find out his parents and siblings names.
Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance.
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5 Jul 2014 20:54 |
Just guessing as you haven't given any location?
Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%) COPPIN John Bromley 2a 293 SIMMONS Louisa Charlotte Bromley 2a 293
would seem to tie in with childrens' births as named , in Lewisham.
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5 Jul 2014 20:54 |
Hi
This might have been better posted on Find Ancestors rather than a general chat board.
Never the less - what is the geographical location please? If you know the name of his wife, have you found a marriage reference? The certificate could give the name of his father, if known, and his occupation.
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5 Jul 2014 20:56 |
For ref? if right couple
1871 England Census about John Coppin Name: John Coppin Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Louisa Coppin Gender: Male Where born: Lewisham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Lee Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret Town: Lee County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Lee ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 208 Piece: 765 Folio: 148 Page Number: 56 Household Members: Name Age John Coppin 39 Louisa Coppin 36 Harry Coppin 7 Frederick Copher 5 * coppin on image Louisa Copher 3 ditto Charles Copher 1 ditto
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5 Jul 2014 21:01 |
Tree on Ancestry has this
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John William Coppin Name: John William Coppin Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Dec 1832 Father's Name: John Coppin Mother's name: Sarah Coppin Parish or Poor Law Union: Lewisham St Mary Borough: Lewisham Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
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5 Jul 2014 21:03 |
Sorry a little new to this, it would have been around Lewisham/Bromley, yes.
His wife was definitely Louisa Coppin (nee Simmons). We have found a census in 1841 of a young John Coppin born in Bromley, and the dates add up. Which makes us think that seen as he was married in Bromley, it's likely he was born there too.
Thank you for your help
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5 Jul 2014 21:04 |
1881 England Census about John Coppin Name: John Coppin Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Louisa C. Coppin Gender: Male Where born: Lee, Kent, England Civil Parish: Lee County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 24 Summerfield St Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Genl Labourer Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Lee ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 732 Folio: 100 Page Number: 73 Household Members: Name Age John Coppin 51 Louisa C. Coppin 46 Harry G. Coppin 17 Frederick Coppin 15 Charles Coppin 11 Edward Coppin 8 View Original Record
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5 Jul 2014 21:13 |
There would appear to be a couple of siblings to John William son of John and Sarah
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about William Coppin Name: William Coppin Gender: Male Birth Date: 1840 Baptism Date: 1840 Baptism Place: Lee, Kent, England Father: John Coppin Mother: Sarah FHL Film Number: 1469431 Reference ID: - 2:31BJDK0 England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about James William Coppin Name: James William Coppin Gender: Male Birth Date: 1838 Baptism Date: 1838 Baptism Place: Lee, Kent, England Father: John Coppin Mother: Sarah FHL Film Number: 1469431 Reference ID: - 2:31BJ810
might help when looking for them on earlier census?
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5 Jul 2014 21:27 |
? England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Charlotte Coppin Name: Charlotte Coppin Gender: Female Birth Date: 28 Jul 1848 Baptism Date: 27 Aug 1848 Baptism Place: Saint Margaret,Lee,Kent,England Father: John Coppin Mother: Sarah FHL Film Number: 288423, 288424
1861 England Census about Charlotte Coppin Name: Charlotte Coppin Age: 11 Estimated birth year: 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Coppin Gender: Female Where born: Lee, Kent, England Civil Parish: Lee St Margaret County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Lee ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 119 Piece: 414 Folio: 100 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age John Coppin 50 widower Ann S Coppin 78 (mother) Charles Coppin 15 Charlotte Coppin 11 Frederick Coppin 9 View Original Record
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5 Jul 2014 21:29 |
I keep coming back to this, father's name is wrong but Sarah and Charlotte, James and William match...I wonder if John was Thomas John or vice versa?
1851 England Census about Charlotte Coppin Name: Charlotte Coppin Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Coppin Mother's name: Sarah Coppin Gender: Female Where born: Lee, Kent, England Civil Parish: Lee Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Lee ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 74 Piece: 1591 Folio: 106 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Coppin 43 Sarah Coppin 35 Thomas Coppin 18 James Coppin 13 William Coppin 11 Charles Coppin 4 Charlotte Coppin 2 Fredrick Coppin 3 Mo View Original Record
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5 Jul 2014 21:34 |
I also keep finding Thomas/John, I think that is what has confused me in the first place
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5 Jul 2014 21:50 |
Name: Edward Coppin Gender: Male Christening Date: 1844 Christening Place: LEE, KENT, ENGLAND Birth Date: 1844 Father's Name: John Coppin Mother's Name: Sarah
I think I'd be inclined to get this one's birth cert? just to check mother's maiden name ?
Births Sep 1844 (>99%) Coppin Edward Lewisham 5 276
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5 Jul 2014 22:17 |
Family search has,
John Coppin, Christing,15th June 1836, Place ,Lee In Kent, Birth Date-14th June 1836,
Father-----George Coppin Mother -Sarah,
Marriage,?? possible. George Coppin, Sarah Perfect. 18th June 1832 Linton Kent,
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