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John Coppin

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Unknown Report 5 Jul 2014 20:48

I am trying to find an ancestor of mine named "John Coppin" who was born around 1832. I know that he had a wife called Louisa and children called Harry (born around 1864), Frederick (born around 1866), Louisa (born around 1868), and Charles (born 1870)

We are struggling to find John as a child, to find out his parents and siblings names.

Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance.

Sirius

Sirius Report 5 Jul 2014 20:54

Just guessing as you haven't given any location?

Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%)
COPPIN John Bromley 2a 293
SIMMONS Louisa Charlotte Bromley 2a 293

would seem to tie in with childrens' births as named , in Lewisham.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Jul 2014 20:54

Hi

This might have been better posted on Find Ancestors rather than a general chat board.

Never the less - what is the geographical location please? If you know the name of his wife, have you found a marriage reference? The certificate could give the name of his father, if known, and his occupation.

Sirius

Sirius Report 5 Jul 2014 20:56

For ref? if right couple

1871 England Census about John Coppin
Name: John Coppin
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa Coppin
Gender: Male
Where born: Lewisham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Lee
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Lee
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Lee
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 208
Piece: 765
Folio: 148
Page Number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
John Coppin 39
Louisa Coppin 36
Harry Coppin 7
Frederick Copher 5 * coppin on image
Louisa Copher 3 ditto
Charles Copher 1 ditto

Sirius

Sirius Report 5 Jul 2014 21:01

Tree on Ancestry has this

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John William Coppin
Name: John William Coppin
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Dec 1832
Father's Name: John Coppin
Mother's name: Sarah Coppin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lewisham St Mary
Borough: Lewisham
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Unknown

Unknown Report 5 Jul 2014 21:03

Sorry a little new to this, it would have been around Lewisham/Bromley, yes.

His wife was definitely Louisa Coppin (nee Simmons). We have found a census in 1841 of a young John Coppin born in Bromley, and the dates add up. Which makes us think that seen as he was married in Bromley, it's likely he was born there too.

Thank you for your help

Sirius

Sirius Report 5 Jul 2014 21:04


1881 England Census about John Coppin
Name: John Coppin
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Louisa C. Coppin
Gender: Male
Where born: Lee, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Lee
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 24 Summerfield St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Genl Labourer
Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Lee
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 732
Folio: 100
Page Number: 73
Household Members:
Name Age
John Coppin 51
Louisa C. Coppin 46
Harry G. Coppin 17
Frederick Coppin 15
Charles Coppin 11
Edward Coppin 8
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Sirius

Sirius Report 5 Jul 2014 21:13

There would appear to be a couple of siblings to John William son of John and Sarah

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about William Coppin
Name: William Coppin
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1840
Baptism Date: 1840
Baptism Place: Lee, Kent, England
Father: John Coppin
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 1469431
Reference ID: - 2:31BJDK0
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about James William Coppin
Name: James William Coppin
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1838
Baptism Date: 1838
Baptism Place: Lee, Kent, England
Father: John Coppin
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 1469431
Reference ID: - 2:31BJ810

might help when looking for them on earlier census?

Sirius

Sirius Report 5 Jul 2014 21:27

?
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Charlotte Coppin
Name: Charlotte Coppin
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 28 Jul 1848
Baptism Date: 27 Aug 1848
Baptism Place: Saint Margaret,Lee,Kent,England
Father: John Coppin
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 288423, 288424


1861 England Census about Charlotte Coppin
Name: Charlotte Coppin
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Coppin
Gender: Female
Where born: Lee, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Lee St Margaret
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Lee
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 119
Piece: 414
Folio: 100
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
John Coppin 50 widower
Ann S Coppin 78 (mother)
Charles Coppin 15
Charlotte Coppin 11
Frederick Coppin 9
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Sirius

Sirius Report 5 Jul 2014 21:29

I keep coming back to this, father's name is wrong but Sarah and Charlotte, James and William match...I wonder if John was Thomas John or vice versa?

1851 England Census about Charlotte Coppin
Name: Charlotte Coppin
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Coppin
Mother's name: Sarah Coppin
Gender: Female
Where born: Lee, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Lee
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Lee
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Piece: 1591
Folio: 106
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Coppin 43
Sarah Coppin 35
Thomas Coppin 18
James Coppin 13
William Coppin 11
Charles Coppin 4
Charlotte Coppin 2
Fredrick Coppin 3 Mo
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Unknown

Unknown Report 5 Jul 2014 21:34

I also keep finding Thomas/John, I think that is what has confused me in the first place

Sirius

Sirius Report 5 Jul 2014 21:50


Name: Edward Coppin
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1844
Christening Place: LEE, KENT, ENGLAND
Birth Date: 1844
Father's Name: John Coppin
Mother's Name: Sarah

I think I'd be inclined to get this one's birth cert? just to check mother's maiden name ?

Births Sep 1844 (>99%)
Coppin Edward Lewisham 5 276

Kay????

Kay???? Report 5 Jul 2014 22:17


Family search has,

John Coppin,
Christing,15th June 1836,
Place ,Lee In Kent,
Birth Date-14th June 1836,

Father-----George Coppin
Mother -Sarah,


Marriage,?? possible.
George Coppin,
Sarah Perfect.
18th June 1832 Linton Kent,