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OH has possibly got to have two dental implants to replace two loose teeth that hold his front lower plate. Has anyone got experience of these type of implants? Do they work well, are they cost effective? We do know the rough cost. Not cheap but he doesn't get on with a plate that is not clipped and doesn't want a full lower plate so his dentist suggests he looks at this option. (I hate teeth :-D)

What is his age, a rhetorical question don't answer just be aware of the info . Bone loss as you get older means they won't last and I'm afraid to say some dentists ignore this as all they can see is money. Some dentists have even suggested adding a powder to help the bone and don't explain that bone is a living thing and if it's slowly being lost it'll only delay the loss. Both of these have happened out here but someone I talked to says he'd come across it in UK.

Dental students are now being taught how to cope with disasters re dental implants. Have read this, this year.

Why are the teeth loose in the first place is it because of bone loss already?

Talk to the dentist about bone loss and what it really means. Look on line about the operation required to do implants and find out as much as you can. Don't take my word or your dentist's alone. It's expensive and you want all the facts, for and against.

Look at the age of the people in the photo of the first link.

https://www.dentalhealth.org/tell-me-about/topic/cosmetic-dentistry/implants

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-18366437

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/10964601/Peri-implantitis-The-time-bomb-in-dental-implants.html

Read as much as you can, inform yourself and write out all the questions you want the dentist to answer. Only when satisfied make your decision.

Hope this helps. :-)

I loosened two front lower teeth when I bit on an unripe pear

The dentist tried to save them by binding them together at the back but success was limited .

He had X-ray,d the front and said the problem was bone loss due to age so the teeth had no chance to tighten up again.

Didn't want a plate but it became a necessity as the teeth couldn't be saved .

We decided to lose the other two teeth as one was crossed and the other one was slightly loose too with bone loss

So I am left with a gap between the two eye teeth and had a plate made with three teeth to take their place

The first one gave me loads of problems with soreness and digging in so finally had another plate made up which has clips either side that grip onto the teeth .

It's a tight fit and can be difficult to get out but it's much more comfortable than the first plate

I guess it's the teeth that the plate grabs onto that can't surport your hubby's plate so that's why he will have them replaced with implants . Knowing how tight the plate fits that has the claws I think I would be concerned about the stability of the new implants with the constant pushing and pulling on them to get the plate in and out

Shirley, ye I too have a plate clipped to other teeth but it doesn't take too much to get it in and out.

Pat thank you. I would think it is bone loss, he is 77. Thank you for the links I will get him to read this.

I also asked about dental implants for my lower front teeth.
I was prepared to pay the going rate ( ouch)
The bone loss was too advanced ( Im only 57) and I also got a partial on the NHS
Unfortunately, the dentist also included a large molar to the plate.
It's been causing pain since day1.
Right from the start the resin around the molar has been too big, too wide and a dreadful fit
It feels like a giant Gob Stopper!
That was in April, but under NHS rules, you have to wait 3 months for a refit.
I had to wait for the refit
Done on Tuesday of this week, and I really hoped things would improve but, the newly sized plate is much worse!

It's still too big and wide. All they do is refill the inside of the plate with additional resin due to shrinkage of the gum after extraction
All the same issues still exist and they also added a clip which is biting hard into my gum

Im going back on Monday to ask that the molar is removed from the plate altogether
I'd rather have a gap at the back that go through this again.

PS.
I can't wear the partial at all now as my gums are red raw.
AND...I'm hosting a dinner party tomorrow :-( :-( :-(

My OH had a similar problem and asked the dentist about implants. The dentist said he wouldn't recommend it as they are very expensive and at OH's age (about 74 at the time) they wouldn't last. Instead he put a post down the middle of the tooth and built up enough new tooth round it to create a substitute. Not beautiful, but it's at the back of his mouth and is still there, working well.

I have a partial plate and, when it was first fitted, I was told to come back a week later so that they could see if it was OK. It was fine, but if it hadn't been they would have sent it away for adjustments. This is NHS, so I think Glasgowlass has had a raw deal (literally). :-( :-(

When I got the refit at the beginning of the week, I could have gone back immediately but, there's a reason why I held off.

It's a brand new dental practice who are just building up a new client list, but I really do like it.
Currently, appointments are almost immediate.

The young dentist that I've been seeing is off on holiday as of Monday and the practise manager returns from maternity leave.
I've never met this "head" dentist before but I really want her to see the partial and ask for her opinion.
I am a little apprehensive ... because the technician who made the plate is her father in law!

Oh Dear!! :-(

Good luck, anyway.

Don't worry, a denture is only as good as the impression taken and the trays used are general sizes. If there is a problem with the size and/or shape of the mouth a special tray can be made from the impression so a very good impression can be taken.

If it's a problem with the technician she needs to know as the reputation of the surgery is at stake and personal recommendations will be important to her.

Check out the British Dental Association as well as NHS dentistry and drop them into conversation so she knows you know etc. :-D

well we have limited NHS dentists in the area so hubby and i are at a private practice.

it was announced in the local press that an NHS dentist was opening up locally but on the opening day I rang and was told NOPE we are full.

Private is costly and I balked at £2000 pounds per tooth to replace my loose teeth with implants

I know I am vain at not wanting false teeth or a partial which I now have but really if i had to I would have false teeth rather than pay out extortionate prices
Hubby manages OK and so does his sister who lost hers too due to bone loss not decay

GlasgowLass use Bonjela to help with soreness. :-)

Thanks everyone

Ann ................


watch the cost!!!


OH had implants done about 7 years ago ....... he would then have been about 70.

We'd talked about it about 2 years previously and decided it was too expensive, even though he has always had what used to be called "bad" teeth, with loads of fillings and crowns. His doctor then sent him to see another specialist, and OH came home saying he'd agreed to having the work done, he felt comfortable with the specialist and thought it would be a good thing.

He floored me ................. most of his mouth would need treatment of some kind, with about 6 or 7 implants, new crowns, fillings, etc. The estimated cost at that point was $50,000.

It ended up costing us over $85,000 .................... which would have been approximately £40,000

7 years on and they are still fine, he has had to have 2 crowns re-done and they may have to be replaced with implants later.


An added continuing cost is that he has to use a special electronic toothbrush to make sure the teeth are cleaned gently but thoroughly. The dentists here all recommend to use Phillips Sonicare Flexcare Professional Model, which is available only through dentists' offices.

I think the original one with 2 brush heads cost over $150 (ca £75), 3 new heads recently cost him about $60 (ca £25).

An ordinary hand toothbrush or even the electric ones you buy in the store are too harsh.


Was it worth it???

He certainly thinks so. He has had to change the way in which his mouth moves as he eats, and there are things that he cannot eat .............. eg, soft caramels. He does sometimes look a little strange when he is eating .......... it's not quite the natural movement that he had before, and sometimes he has to eat with his mouth open. I'm not sure of the reason.


It still seems one h*** of a cost to me!! But then, I've always had good teeth.


His option basically was this or probably full dentures.

Well we certainly couldn't afford that Sylvia. Unfortunately we both have poor teeth.

Ann .............. we couldn't afford it either!

We ended up using a Line of Credit, and paying it off over the next couple of years


It really is the one and only time during our whole marriage (48 years next month) that either one of us has gone ahead and spent a large amount of money without the other being in full agreement.

he wanted them, and nothing that I, the Treasurer, said would change his mind.


I was not a happy Bunny

I myself have complete top and bottom of implants to which have given me a total new look and couldn't be more please.
I originally in 2009 looked on website to find out about implants and came across Dominic Littlewood who said don't just go to Krakow for week end breaks get your teeth done. Hence, I made contact with Polish my Smile and hey presto went and saw a Bartosz Gill who couldn't have been more professional in all aspects. I had ten implants alongside 6 front crowns and at the time was quoted £13,500. my option was to go on a number visit over a two year period so due to the rate of exchange it cost my approx. 14.500 but must say money worth spent for totally given me confidence.
By coincidence I have had to pay private this last week for treatment in adding another implant (here in UK) and although all was okay I can honestly say that the treatment in Poland professional/most hygienic/completely pain free and total after care given.
I would highly recommend Bartosz Gill for he himself is very patient and trustworthy and makes you feel completely relaxed. You could have afew days break whilst you are there - again Poland is cheap to eat and drink. I could even recommend a certain hotel if needed .

Thank you. Another option.

I went back to the surgery and met the head dentist.
She removed loads of resin from the partial and although it's much better,I still feel as if my mouth full.
I'm going back next week to see the technician who will try to remove as much additional resin as possible or we start again with a new one

THEN... she asks if I've considered implants!
Told her that her locum said that I wasn't suitable but, she says she can do it.

It would be just 2 implants plus a bridge of 2 teeth.

Seriously considering it now
:-D :-D :-D

Dentist terrify me My husband doesn't like them to
stems from childhood a dentist with hairy hands :-(

I've just had to fork out a fortune for a bridge, he advised against implants because I have osteoporosis.

Wasn't that much difference in the price. Dentists have us over a barrel, really. we need teeth.