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How and where can I find out more information with regards to the following prison record:

Baptism

First name(s) William Harrison Last name Keyte
Gender Male Birth yea 1824
Baptism date 12 Oct 1830 Place Shoreditch
County London Country England
Father's first name(s) William Harrison
Father's last name Keyte
Mother's first name Mary

1841 CEN SUS: ADDRESS 52 RAWSTORN STREET. DISTRICT CLERKENWEL, GOSWELL STREET.
WILLIAM KEYTE (45) WATCH CASE MAKER, ANN (MOTHER) 70, WILLIAM (15), ROBERT (15), JOHN (10). ROBERT (15?) NEPHEW?, CHARLES WILLIAMS 23 PRINTER, ANN WILLIAMS 21(NEE KEYTE) WIFE AND NIECE? CHARLES WILLIIAMS (2) AND FREDERICK WILLIAMS (3MTHS).

Is this William in 1841

William Keyte Suffix Sr Occupation Labourer Age 17
Birth year 1824
Year 1841 Date 07 Dec 1841 Place Middlesex
Crime Stealing Sentence type Prison
Sentence duration 3M Victim's first name(s)
Frederick Victim's last name Smith
Series HO77
Source Newgate Prison Calendar
Piece number 48 Folio number 20
Record setEngland & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from Great Britain

First name(s) William Last name Keate
Occupation Labourer Age 19 Birth year 1823
Year 1842 Date 05 Jul 1842 Place Middlesex
Crime Embezzlement & Stealing
Sentence type Transported
Sentence duration 7Y
Series HO77
Source Newgate Prison Calendar
Piece number49
Folio number 9
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from Great Britain

Thank you in advance

George

Another thread about the same person

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1359224?jump=1359224

William Keate in the Australian Convict Transportation Registers
Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868

Name: William Keate
Vessel: Earl Grey
Convicted Date: 4 Jul 1842
Voyage Date: 4 Oct 1842
Colony: Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land)
Place of Conviction: Old Bailey, London, England

Thank you very much for that Rollo. Would you know if there are any websites etc. That I may look up. So as to follow up for more information.

As William was sentenced at the Old Bailey have you tried:
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/

Dizzi knew a website she used will try to find it in the list she gave me... no promises to get back any time soon :-|


http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/resources/family-history/convicts

Ancestry has Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868

if you don't have a sub, you can take out a 2 week free trial..

FMP might also have similar records.

as Rollo posted earlier ............

Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868

Name: William Keate
Vessel: Earl Grey
Convicted Date: 4 Jul 1842
Voyage Date: 4 Oct 1842
Colony: Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land)
Place of Conviction: Old Bailey, London, England

From image ............

Sentence:- 7 years



The same record is on FMP

This is his first conviction from ancestry ... it is indeed Junr on the image

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892

Name: William Junr Keyte
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Date of Trial: 29 Nov 1841
Trial Year: 1841
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

He was accused of Larceny and sentenced to 3 months imprisonment

The trial was held at the Central Criminal Court

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-2075-18420704&div=t18420704-2075#highlight

this is the 1842 entry on the Old Bailey site for William ...........

WILLIAM KEATE was indicted for embezzling, on the 21st May, 15s. 9d.; and, on the 31st of May, 5l. 14s.; the monies of Header Treverton and another, his masters; and that he had been before convicted of felony; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years.

You can open the original record



He didn't learn much from his 3 months imprisonment did he?!



this is the report of his first sentence ..........

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-171-18411129&div=t18411129-171#highlight

171. WILLIAM KEYTE , the younger, was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of October, 1 coat, value 3s., the goods of John William Hurst ; also for stealing, on the 8th of November, 1 coat, value 10s.; and 1 pair of trowsers, value 3s.; the goods of John William Hurst ; to both of which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Three Months.


again, you can open the original record

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The family history of Henry and William Keyte 1851-2001 : a book to celebrate the 150 years of Keyte settlement in Australia / compiled and edited by Greta Tucker and Susan Hurley
Hurley, Susan
[ Book : 2001 ]
Keywords: Keyte family.; Australia - Genealogy.
... The family history of Henry and William Keyte 1851-2001 : a book to celebrate the 150 years of Keyte ...

it looks as though he might have been a real bad 'un!

from the archive of Australian newspapers

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=william+keyte&l-australian=y

decade 1840-1849

Hobarton Guardian, or, True Friend of Tasmania (Hobart, Tas. : 1847 - 1854) Wednesday 22 November 1848 p 2 Article
... . Four men, Itoger Hedge, laac Merrick, Thomas Edge, and William Keyte, w-re in custody and present at ... , adjourned first meoling of creditors ana meeting , for discharge, and William Bales, fiist meeting of ... 2002 words

The above is a charge of murder of a ticket of leave carpenter called Thomas Cornell and burglary ........... Hedge was a free man, Merrick, Edge and Keyte are said to be Ticket of Leave men


The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser (NSW : 1843 - 1893) Saturday 2 December 1848 p 3 Article
... William Keyte. The three bushrangers who some time since escaped to South Australia, and were appre ... 1976 words

The 3 escaped and went to SA but were apprehended and returned. The trial was terminated with the verdict murder against a person or persons unknown, as it couldn't be proved

The report ends with this ........

This man Hedge had been in custody during the inquest, and three other men, named Isaac Mernck, Thomas Edge, and William Keyte. The three bushrangers who some time since escaped to South Australia, and were apprehended there and sent back, had been committed for trial for the murder of Hôwaid, the constable, who was shot dead in an encounter with them before then escape from the island. They were also committed on a charge of robbery.

There are apparently 3 records on these records, but I don't have that subscription. Maybe someone else does have a sub to ancestry.com.au and could see the records for you

William Keyte - Ancestry.com.au
search.ancestry.com.au/.../sse.dll?...William...Keyte...
All 1800s Censuses results for William Keyte ... New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1806-1849 1800s Censuses View Image ...

There are numerous records for William Keate, but there is also one for an unassited immigration, with the wrong age who had connections to Stratford-on-Avon.

This one is probably relevant to the Old Bailey record, and similar to the version posted earlier by Rollo

New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1806-1849
Wm Keate
Arrival Date: 1843
Vessel: Earlgrey
Province: Tasmania
Title: Ledger Returns A - R
Year(s): 1846
Place of Conviction: C C CT
Sentenced to 7 years

Yes does seem that this William was a bad one. The newspaper articles make interesting reading. Lucky for them there was no availability for DNA testing. . Would anyone know where what website I could use. So as to see a Ticket of Leave Document. Thank you all very much for your help and time.

George

Is there any one that can make this conduct record for William Keate any clearer to read please.

https://talis.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fNAME_INDEXES$002f0$002fNAME_INDEXES:1407981/emailReturn?qu=william&qu=keyte&qf=PUBDATE%09Year%091842%091842&d=ent%3A%2F%2FNAME_INDEXES%2F0%2FNAME_INDEXES%3A1407981%7ENAME_INDEXES%7E1%7E0&pe=r%3A000000000000

Thank you

I enlarged it - made it much easier to read.
Though not too easy :-(

Yes have tried that Maggie. But still difficult for me to read.

I'll try to translate it - I may take some time :-S

Thank you very much Maggie... :-D