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Now I'm even more confused. I thought the Harold Frankland on the 1911 census was your nan's father - not yours.

So is Harold Blakely Frankland the one who married Edna Dixon? If so it only says Harold Frankland on the marriage reference.

p.s. will check back later as I have to go out this morning.

Kath. x

No we havent got his birth certificate but on my birth certificate it's Harold Blakely Frankland :-\

How can you possibly know the exact DOB if you don't have any certs?

There is no birth registered for Harold Frankland - with or without other forenames - in England/Wales in 1905

The child on 1911 census is Harold Campbell Frankland whose birth and death details you have already been given

That's why I was confused. I think that Harold is actually Harold Campbell Frankland and not Harold Blakely Frankland. Where have you got the Blakely name from?

Kath. x

its under just Harold Frankland and annis street preston he lived with william and Bertha and his siblings ? x

He was born on 24 may 1905 and he's in the 1911 census x

Sorry - I think I'm confused. I can't see a Harold Blakely Frankland in the 1911 census. Where is he living at the time? The census wouldn't give his exact date of birth.

Kath. x

24 may 1905 he's in the 1911 census x

Do you have his birth certificate? If not where have you got his exact birth date from?

Kath. x

i know i cant find one either :-\ thanks for helping x

I can't see a death for that name up to 2006.

Where was he born as I can't see a birth for that name either in 1905?

Kath. x

He was born May 24th 1905 and the last time we know of is in 1936
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When was Harold Blakley Frankland born? Do you know when he was last known to be alive?

Kath. x

Frankland^

Can anyone help me find a death for Harold Blakely Franland ? Please

Thanks all for your help :)

With his occupation it is possible William was a member of the Institution, which was formed in 1847:

Engineering history
Engineering Heritage. Institution of Mechanical Engineers' heritage website. Home · The Story of IMechE · Mechanical Engineering ...

heritage.imeche.org/ - Similar

Do you have either an engineering museum or Steam Pump Trust locally?

Edit:

1901
Name William Frankland
Relation to Head of Family Head
Age Last Birthday 30
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Cotton Mill Mechanic
Condition as to Marriage Married
Where Born Lancs Preston
Address 5 Clarendon St
Civil Parish Preston
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet Preston
Ecclesiastical Parish St James
Parliamentary Borough or Division Preston Blackpool Div
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Preston
Administrative County Lancashire
Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District St Johns

1891

Possible as Woodplumton birth occupation is a butcher

Name William Frankland
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1872
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Weaver Cotton
Address Balderston Terrace, Lytham Road
District Fylde, Kirkham
Parish Freckleton
Administrative County Lancashire
Birth Place Preston
Birth County Lancashire

Have sent Shirley a message in case she isn't sure how to get back to her thread.

Kath. x

If Harold Campbell Frankland is the correct person then this is his death:-


Name: FRANKLAND, Harold Campbell
Registration District: Preston & South Ribble
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1981
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Date of Birth: 27 November 1904
Volume No: 40
Page No: 2315

Kath. x

This is the reference for Harold and Edna's marriage (the certificate would give you their parent's names to verify whether the above information is correct):-

Name: DIXON, Edna
Registration District: Wharfedale
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1936
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Frankland
Volume No: 9A
Page No: 410

Name: FRANKLAND, Harold
Registration District: Wharfedale
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1936
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Dixon
Volume No: 9A
Page No: 410

Kath. x