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Hales from Shropshire

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Margaret

Margaret Report 19 Oct 2011 15:21

Thanks Flick for your help, I do have access, just still a novice at this kind of thing and sometimes it gets a little confusing.
Thanks Lynski I found that record too, but that Philip Henry settled in Syracuse New York where he raised a family and died. The Philip Henry I am looking for went on to father 4 children in the 1920s here in England.

Lynski

Lynski Report 19 Oct 2011 03:13

Name: HALES, Philip Henry
Registration District: Help Wem
County: Shropshire
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 6A
Page No: Help 789

If this is your Philip Henry Hales, could he have gone overseas??

Name: P H HALES
Date of departure: 10 April 1906
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1872 (calculated from age)
Age: 34
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Lab
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 45

Ship: CARONIA
Official Number:
Master's name: Capt Barr
Steamship Line:
Where bound: New York, USA
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 22:39

Name: Frann R Hales
Birth Date: abt 1908
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1963
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 52


As you obviously have access to all records, I'll leave you to it..................happy hunting

And, as I'm sure you've realised, Shropshire is by no means the only location for members of this family

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2011 19:12

It looks like Frank Robert died in 1963.

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2011 17:39

Yes, that is very strange. I have had the same problem with Philip Henry Hales. I never could find a death for him either and he was born in 1868 so I know he is still not alive.

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 17:07

Name: Charles Harold Hales
Birth Date: 9 Nov 1905
Date of Registration: Feb 1986
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 36
Page: 416
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Name: Frank R Hales
Spouse Surname: Gutteridge
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1935
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 618
Find Spouse: Kathleen

There is a possible second marriage for Frank...........in 1968, in Kent

I can't see a death for him..........strange!

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2011 16:40

That is womderful thank you for all this information

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 16:04

1911

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HALES, Charles James
Address: 45 Station Road Retford

HALES, Charles James Head Married
7 years M 35 1876 Chemist Assistant Ellesmere Salop VIEW
HALES, Anne Wife Married
7 years F 34 1877 Boston Lincs VIEW
HALES, Charles Harold Son M 5 1906 Retford Notts VIEW
HALES, Frank Robert Son M 3 1908 Retford Notts VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
20205 Reference:
RG14PN20205 RG78PN1209 RD426 SD3 ED11 SN66

_________________________________________________________

Deaths Dec 1937 (>99%)
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Hales Charles J 64 E.Retford 7b 10

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 16:01

1901

Name: Charlt J Lunt
Age in 1901: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Lunt
Gender: Female
Where born: Ellesmere, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Overton
Ecclesiastical parish: Overton St Mary
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales


Registration district: Ellesmere
Sub-registration district: Overton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 2547
Folio: 29
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
John Lunt 30
Charlt J Lunt 32
Chas James Hales 27 Brother in Law - Occ: CHEMIST

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 15:59

Name: Charlotte J Lunt
Birth Date: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Holywell
Inferred County: Flintshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 623


The Probate of her Will is on Ancestry.....my sub doesn't stretch to those records

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 15:49

I'll leave you to look for marriages of the children as per 1911 census records...............also to find whether there were any further additions to the Gibbs family after 1911

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 15:41

1911 census - household transcription
Person: GIBBS, Louisa Caroline
Address: Wigginton Hall St Martins Oswestry


GIBBS, John Edward Head Married M 40 1871 Farmer Dudleston Salop VIEW
GIBBS, Louisa Caroline Wife Married
11 years F 43 1868 Ellesmere Salop VIEW
GIBBS, Mary Louisa Daughter F 8 1903 St Martins Salop VIEW
GIBBS, Beatrice Emily Daughter F 7 1904 St Martins Salop VIEW
GIBBS, Balnche Ruth Daughter F 6 1905 St Martins Salop VIEW
GIBBS, Muriel Agnes Daughter F 4 1907 St Martins Salop VIEW
ROBERTS, John Single F 47 1864 Farm Labourer Selattyn Salop VIEW
ALLEN, Thomas Single M 26 1885 Cowman On Farm Littleness Salop VIEW
BUTLER, Earnest Single M 23 1888 Waggoner On Farm Hanmer Flintshire VIEW
PEATE, Elizabeth Single F 17 1894 Domestic Servant St Martins Salop VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16154 Reference:
RG14PN16154 RG78PN998 RD350 SD4 ED2 SN35

Registration District:
Oswestry Sub District:
St Martins Enumeration District:
2 Parish:


Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 15:37

1911 census - household transcription

Person: LUNT, Charlotte Jane
Address: Little Cloy Overton Ellesmere Shropshire


LUNT, John Head Married M 39 1872 Farmer Penley Ellesmere Salop VIEW
LUNT, Charlotte Jane Wife Married
17 years F 40 1871 Ellesmere Salop VIEW
ROGERS, Eleanor Single F 16 1895 Servant St Martin Shropshire VIEW
JONES, Nathaniel Single M 21 1890 Servant Overton Flints VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16166 Reference:
RG14PN16166 RG78PN999 RD351 SD1 ED3 SN26

Registration District:
Ellesmere Sub District:
Overton Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Overton

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 15:35

Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%)
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Hales Charlotte Jane Ellesmere 6a 1147
Lunt John Ellesmere 6a 1147
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Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Gibbs John Edward Ellesmere 6a 1601
Hales Louisa Caroline Ellesmere 6a 1601

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2011 15:35

Thank you very

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 15:32

Name: Emily Rose Hales
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1893
Age at Death: 27
Registration district: Ellersmere
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 415

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 15:26

1891....

Name: Philip Henry Hales
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Hales
Gender: Male
Where born: Ellesmere, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Overton
Ecclesiastical parish: Overton
Town: Overton
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales


Registration district: Ellesmere
Sub-registration district: Overton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2119
Folio: 23
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
George Hales 68
Ellen Hales 32
Emily R Hales 25
Louisa C Hales 24
Charlotte J Hales 22
Philip Henry Hales 20
Walter Hales 70 Brother, b. Wem
William Jones 16

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 15:25

Name: Margaret Blanche Hales
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1885
Age at Death: 48
Registration district: Ellersmere
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 563

Flick

Flick Report 18 Oct 2011 15:23

For INFO.........1881



Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George HALES Head M Male 50 Wem, Shropshire, England Farmer 100 Acres
Margaret B. HALES Wife M Female 45 Chester, Cheshire, England
Ellen HALES Daur U Female 22 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Farmers Daughter
Elizabeth HALES Daur Female 21 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Farmers Daughter
Alice HALES Daur Female 18 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Farmers Daughter
George HALES Son Male 16 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Aprentice Draper
Emily HALES Daur Female 14 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Loeisa HALES Daur Female 13 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Scholar
Charlotte HALES Daur Female 11 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Scholar
Williams HALES Son Male 10 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Scholar
Henery HALES Son Male 9 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Scholar
Charles HALES Son Male 6 Shawbury, Shropshire, England
Anne JONES Servt U Female 13 Overton, Flint, Wales General Servt
Mary BLANTERN Visitor W Female 70 Malpas, Cheshire, England

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2011 15:15

oops, that should have read 1841. I have tried calling several Hales in the area, but so far with no luck.