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Yates, Bowden and Wadsworth and Joule family

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Stewart

Stewart Report 18 Nov 2011 18:08

I am related to the yates family who were last living in Glossop that being a Tom Yates, his daughter Olga and his wife whose name escapes me but she was a Wadsworth.
A photograph album with photos back to the turn of the century has come into my possesion. It contains photos of yates people plus a Cyril Bowden who married a Clara Yates and photos of Joule ladies being mary and Clara who were born in the late 1800's.
I amkeen to return this album to anyone in the family who might have a connection and be able to identify the photos.
Please get in touch if you think you may have a connection.
Stewart Rothwell

Lynski

Lynski Report 18 Nov 2011 20:25

Have you tried putting the names into Search Trees on this site?

If you find a possible match you could contact the tree owner to see if there is a connection.

Lynski

Lynski Report 18 Nov 2011 20:34

Marriages Dec 1921 (>99%)
Bowden Cyril R Yates Glossop 7b 1974
Yates Clara Bowden Glossop 7b 1974

Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
Bowden Cyril Redford Hayfield 7b 845

If this is him (??) he would have been 25 when he married.

Name: BOWDEN, Cyril Redford
Registration District: Help Chapel En Le Frith
County: Derbyshire
Year of Registration: 1970
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of Birth: 4 October 1896
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 2651

I wonder????

Name: BOWDEN, Clara
Registration District: Help Glossop
County: Derbyshire
Year of Registration: 1923
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 26
Volume No: 7B
Page No: 981

???????
Marriages Mar 1928 (>99%)
Bowden Cyril R Wild Glossop 7b 1239
WILD Sarah A Bowden Glossop 7b 1239

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Marriages Dec 1926
Wadsworth Mary Yates Ashton 8d 1164
Yates Tom Wadsworth Ashton 8d 1164

Rose

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"Olga" must be known by her middle name:

Births Sep 1928
Yates Beryl O Wadsworth Stockport 8a 20

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 18 Nov 2011 22:43

Is Clara Tom's sister?

Her birth?

Births Dec 1896
Yates Clara Hayfield 7b 843

Looks like she didn't have any children.

Rose

Stewart

Stewart Report 19 Nov 2011 16:30

Lynski
Thanks for reply. Yes I have tried putting names in and made a start with Olga yates. Had one negative reply and waiting for others
Thanks for your response.
Stewart

Stewart

Stewart Report 19 Nov 2011 16:35

Rose

thank you for that which does answer a mystery in that I have a postcard in the photo album addressed to a Ms B. O. Yates that I thought might be an error but clearly is not. Very gratefull to you. This might change things!

Stewart

Stewart

Stewart Report 19 Nov 2011 16:41

Rose has kindly supplied details of Olga's birth and she would now be 85 if she is alive which is possible. Will be trying a directory enquiry search on Monday. Does nopt of course explain whyn the photo album if it is Olga's was on sale on a stall at Glossop market?
It is such a shame I have all these lovely old photos and would really like them to be with someone from the family.

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If Beryl never married, there is a death in 2000 for a Beryl Olga Yates who was born in July 1928.

This does fit with the quarter her birth was registered.

Rose

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There's a Beryl O Yates who married a Kenneth Shackleton in Worthing in 1992.

Looks like he died in 2000 and he was born in 1915. A Beryl A Shackleton shows on the 2002 electoral roll.

This would be his birth and he does appear in some trees on this site:

Births Mar 1915
SHACKLETON Kenneth Little Keighley 9a 301

Rose

Stewart

Stewart Report 20 Nov 2011 16:52

Rose
Do you know place of death? Last known address I have for Olga was Hyde.
I dont think the Worthing lady is our Olga as my late mother was in contact with her and would have told me if she had married .
I am so grateful for your help.
Stewart

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She died in Tameside district which includes Hyde.

Rose

Stewart

Stewart Report 20 Nov 2011 18:20

Rose

i suspect that is our Olga. What a shame and perhaps that explains why the photo album came to be on sale on a market stall in Glossop.

I am using the search facility here and have several messages out trying to trace other family but I dont hold out huge hope that I will find anyone able to identify the people in the photos.

there is however a Heritage Centre for Glossop so maybe i will send the album to them so they can publicise it locally.

Thank you for all your help.

Any other ideas appreciated.
Stewart

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I didn't realise how close Glossop is to Hyde. I suspect this album was left to Beryl after her parents died. With no living descendants, it made it's way to a market.

I suspect Clara and Tom must be siblings. Might be worth tracking down other siblings of theirs.

Rose

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Could this be Tom and Clara?

Births Dec 1896
Yates Clara Hayfield 7b 843

Births Mar 1898
Yates Tom Hayfield 7b 874

Rose

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1911?

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD YATES ARTHUR M 1892 19 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES DORA F 1891 20 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES LUCY F 1865 46 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES MABEL F 1896 15 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES MARY F 1894 17 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES NELLY F 1903 8 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES SAMUEL M 1869 42 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES THOMAS M 1898 13 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES CLARA F 1897 14 Glossop Derbyshire

Rose

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Parents are Samuel and Lucy Jowle.

Are you sure of the spelling of Joule. Could it be Jowle? That means Mary and Clara could be sisters of Lucy.

Rose

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How about this?

1881 Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas JOWLE Head M Male 61 Bamford, Derby, England Quarryman
Martha JOWLE Wife M Female 54 Norton, York, England
Hannah JOWLE Daur U Female 30 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Warper
Mary JOWLE Daur U Female 22 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Winder
Clara JOWLE Daur U Female 20 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Warper
Rachel JOWLE Daur U Female 18 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Winder
Lucy JOWLE Daur U Female 16 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Weaver

Source Information:
Dwelling New Road
Census Place Tintwistle, Cheshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341971
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4061 / 11
Page Number 15

Rose

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Stewart,

Do you already know all this as you say you are related?

Rose