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James Vincent Patterson New Zealand

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Persephone Report 3 Mar 2012 22:47

:-) :-)


Mark Report 3 Mar 2012 16:00

Hi Persie,

Thanks for this. I had a similar email too! My first request made by email was refused. I replied and had another email from a different person, saying if I paid the $20 fee, the documents will be mailed to me. I'm having a little more difficulty gaining access to my uncle's High Court and Coroner files, but again, waiting for a response to my reply.

Thank you so much for all your help with this, really appreciate it.



Persephone Report 29 Feb 2012 00:21

Have also Pmd Mark..

I have been making enquiries re our Archives because not everyone can visit the offices.. the site says order and view at office..

I received this which is for the archives that are on open access.

"Thank you for your enquiry regarding ordering archival records.

You do not need a reader number to order from overseas. You just need to send an email to the relevant Archives New Zealand office including information about the record you require. We will tell you how much it will cost for us to photocopy the information and will send you an electronic link to make payment. Each probate costs $20.00 which includes photocopying. Other records are $25 per one half hour research time and also include photocopying up to 20 pages. "

I will also post this on the NZ tips board that Tony in Oz has on GR.



Mark Report 16 Feb 2012 21:32

WIll do, thank you


LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 14:56

And your father is?
If he is still living do not post on here but pm me the details.


Mark Report 16 Feb 2012 13:51

Persephone/LadyKira/Buddah - A big THANK YOU to you both. The details of my uncle's death have always been a mystery! Although he passed away before i was born, can remember my mum telling me about him, she thought the world of him and was heartbroken that he was killed so far away. Always said to her that one day, I'd take her ti New Zealand to her brothers grave, unfortunately, that won't happen as she passed away in 2004. She always claimed that she could hear him calling out her name one night and when the news came through, it was the night, but daytime in NZ giving the time difference, he was killed by the bulldozer. Gives me an excuse to visit NZ one day!!

Thank you for all the info about my grandparents, Walter and Fanny Kate Patterson, have traced my grandmothers siblings, but have struggled with my grandfathers side, but maybe not now, thank you again. My grandfather was indeed in the Royal Sussex Regiment and served in India. My grandmother was indeed brought up in Ringwould and at one point, lived there when my mother and her siblings were a lot younger.

Just loved this website and everyone seems so keen to help, love that side of it too. Just a shame not so lucky tracing my own father.



LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 11:16

Your next task would be to trace each of your grandparents siblings to see if any of them went to New Zealand,


LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 11:14

This could be your grandmother with parents and siblings.

1911 Address: Ringwould Dover
ROGERS, Albert Vincent Head Married M 47 1864 Road Labourer Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Sarah Elizabeth Wife Married
22 years F 38 1873 Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Hilda Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1895 Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Frederick Thomas Son M 10 1901 Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Fanny Kate Daughter F 8 1903 Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Rhoda Daughter F 6 1905 Kent East Langdon
ROGERS, Edward Son M 4 1907 Kent East Langdon


LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 11:06

Looks like they moved around a fair bit.
Also more children than listed on the service record.
George may have died before enlistment.

1911 Address: Mill House Lynsted Sittingbourne
PATTERSON, Walter Head Married M 42 1869 Working Bailiff Farm Kent Blean
PATTERSON, Annie Wife Married
21 years F 40 1871 Kent Canterbury
PATTERSON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 18 1893 Kent Canterbury
PATTERSON, Thomas Son Single M 17 1894 Laborer On Farm Kent Canterbury
PATTERSON, Flourace Daughter F 13 1898 School Kent Chilham
PATTERSON, Emily Daughter F 12 1899 School Kent Faversham
PATTERSON, Albert Son M 9 1902 Kent Wye
PATTERSON, Ernist Son M 7 1904 Kent Wye
PATTERSON, Percey Son M 5 1906 Kent Icklesham
PATTERSON, Arther Son M 4 1907 Kent Kennardington
PATTERSON, Nelley Daughter F 1 1910 Kent Lynsted


LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:58

1901 Address: School Farm Cottage, Faversham Without
POTTERSON, Walter Head Married M 32 1869 Waggoner On Farm
POTTERSON, Annie Wife Married F 30 1871
Canterbury Kent
POTTERSON, Walter Son M 9 1892
Ospringe Kent
POTTERSON, Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1893
Canterbury Kent
POTTERSON, Thomas Son M 6 1895
Canterbury Kent
POTTERSON, George Son M 4 1897
Wingham Kent
POTTERSON, Florence Daughter F 2 1899
POTTERSON, Emily Daughter F 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Goodnestone Kent


LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:54

MarriageFinderâ„¢: Walter J Patterson married Fanny K Rogers [?]Name: PATTERSON, Walter JRegistration district: [?] Dover County: KentYear of registration: 1922Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name RogersVolume no: [?] 2A Page no: [?] 2553

Name: ROGERS, Fanny KRegistration district: Dover County: Kent Year of registration: 1922 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-JunSpouse's last name: Patterson Volume no: 2A Page no: 2553

so married 1922


LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:49

If this is your guy his service record is on FMP
He was in the army less than 205 days
character good
and lists parents and siblings.
Walter father
Annie mother

address is Brook Farm. I***ham nr Rye


LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:39

British Army Service Records 1760-1915

First name(s): Walter James

Last name: PATTERSON

Calculated year of birth: 1889

Parish of birth: Eastling

Town of birth: Faversham

County of birth: Kent

Age at attestation: 17 years 5 months

Attestation date: 4 December 1906

Attestation corps: ROYAL SUSSEX REGT

Attestation soldier number: 9876

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps: Royal Sussex Regiment - 35th & 107th Foot

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO96 / 637 / 328


LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:37

Is this your grandfather?

1911 census - household transcription

Person: PATTERSON, Walter James
Military details: Private 1st Royal Sussex Regt
PATTERSON, Walter James Single 21 1890 Cook Kent Eastling Favesham

I am thinking if the letter says aunti to your mother then perhaps she is referring to to one of her own or her husband's siblings.


Persephone Report 16 Feb 2012 09:12

The ski slope he was working on could have been Coronet Peak near Queenstown... or at the Cardrona ski fields... looks like he was residing in Arrowtown at the time...

You should go down there sometime... one of the most beautiful flight paths .. flying into Queenstown. My OH can't bear to look out of the window.


Persephone Report 16 Feb 2012 09:09

Forename(s) James Vincent
Age 25 Years
Gender Male
Date of Birth Not recorded
Date of Death Not recorded
Date of Burial 10/04/59
Cemetery Name Queenstown
Location Protestant, Block 6, Plot 32
Burial Type Burial
Occupation Bulldozer Driver
Place of Birth
Notes No gravestone

The cemetery records don't have his date of death but he died 7th April 1959..


Mark Report 15 Feb 2012 20:00

Well, LadyKira, WOW - thank you sooooo much. Always thought my uncle sailed to NZ from Kuala Lumpur, but hey, that's the wonderful thing about searching your family history, always something you don't expect.

Vine Cottage was where my grandparents lived at the time of his passing in NZ and the address I have on the top of the letter sent by my grandmother to my mum informing her of James' tragic accident. Just looking forward to hearing from the NZ agency to see what else comes up.

Just a shame I can't have the same luck with tracing my father!



LadyKira Report 15 Feb 2012 18:42

Some useful NZ links on this site.


LadyKira Report 15 Feb 2012 16:55

Vine Cottage St Margaret's nr Dover Kent
He was a fitters mate


LadyKira Report 15 Feb 2012 16:51

passenger transcript details

Date of departure: 4 February 1958
Port of departure: Glasgow
Passenger destination port: New Zealand
Passenger destination: New Zealand

Date of Birth: 4 February 1934
Age: 24 (calculated from DOB)
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Fitters Mate
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 14

Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
A Rowlands
New Zealand