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Help finding my nans half siblings

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Barry Report 21 Feb 2012 21:37

I know because my nan is alive and told me her birth etc: 30th March 1934

Yes they would be half siblings Lynski!.



Lynski Report 21 Feb 2012 20:36


Baz has already stated that Richard was Mary's father even though he and Annie did not marry until 1948 so the Lloyd/Jones children would be half-siblings?


Do you have a copy of your Nan's birth certificate? Is this her birth?

Births Jun 1934 (>99%)
Harris Mary E Lloyd Llanfyllin 11b 216


Barry Report 21 Feb 2012 18:13

Ok thank you Braken :)


Braken Report 21 Feb 2012 14:54

So the 3 children's names I gave you hopefully if correct would be Mary Elizabeth Lloyd (Harris) siblings?

They would have been born before her mother Annie married Harris in 1948


Barry Report 21 Feb 2012 14:51

Yes Bracken that is right.


Braken Report 21 Feb 2012 14:46

Sorry I think I have got mixed up I thought

Annie Beatrice Jones was born 1905c
married 1st husband John H Lloyd
then 2nd husband Richard Abraham Harris

that's why mary was Lloyd then Harris


Barry Report 21 Feb 2012 14:41

My nan was born before my great nan and great grand dad got married!, so my nan was born with the lloyd name as my my great nan was then Annie Lloyd. my great grand parents wernt married till the 40s.


Braken Report 21 Feb 2012 14:36

The 3 children's names I have given you are to Annie Beatrice's first marriage to John Lloyd the same as Mary Elizabeth so if correct they would be full siblings


Barry Report 21 Feb 2012 14:25

I am not sure Braken as My nan was a only child to the 2nd marriage i know nothing of the first marriage and the half siblings.

And i have been using freebmd but i find it difficult to use and am trying to get my head around it, so yes Annie D could be a possible child of my great grandmother Annie Beatrice Jones/Lloyd first marriage


Reggie Report 21 Feb 2012 14:16


Annie D born 1923 was a possible CHILD of Annie Beatrice. You must read carefully the info which people take the trouble to find for you

As has already been pointed out, the names are so common that the only way to find accurate details is to buy certs

You really should be looking for info yourself on freebmd


Braken Report 21 Feb 2012 14:13

Were John George and Thomas siblings of your Mary Elizabeth Lloyd/Harris


Barry Report 21 Feb 2012 14:03

Hi Lynne, I knew all the siblings and there parents and grandparents. :)

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 21 Feb 2012 13:55

Don't know whether this will help, it is the 1911 census showing Annie Beatrice Jones with her parents and siblings:

JONES, James Pentenlu Priod M 37 1874 Lead Miner Driller Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW
JONES, Jane Gwraig Priod F 31 1880 Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW
JONES, James Mab M 12 1899 School Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW
JONES, Maggie Merch F 10 1901 School Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW
JONES, Mary Elizabeth M 8 1903 Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW
JONES, Gladys Merch F 7 1904 Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW
JONES, Annie Beatrice Merch F 6 1905 Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW
JONES, Harriet Merch F 5 1906 Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW
JONES, Hannah Merch F 3 1908 Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW
JONES, David Stanley Mab M 1 1910 Montgomery Trefeglwys VIEW


RG number:
RG14 Piece:
33756 Reference:
RG14PN33756 RG78PN1947 RD616 SD1 ED18 SN2

Registration District:
Newtown Sub District:
Llanidloes Enumeration District:
18 Parish:

Nantyglyn Llawryglyn Via Llanidloes County:


Barry Report 21 Feb 2012 13:32

Her full name is Annie Beatrice Jones Born 1905 in I think it was Trefeglwys, Montgomery. Her parents Were James and Jane Jones.

So I dont think it could be the Annie D one!.


Braken Report 21 Feb 2012 13:27

another 2 Lloyd children

George M 1934 Newtown
Thomas C 1928 Newtown mother's maiden name Jones



KathleenBell Report 21 Feb 2012 12:48

There is this one as a possible:-

Name: LLOYD, Annie D
Registration district: Newtown
County: Montgomeryshire
Year of registration: 1923
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Jones
Volume no: 11B
Page no: 232

This is another possible (if the marriage given above is the correct one and given that the groom's name is John. H. Lloyd):-

Name: LLOYD, John H
Registration district: Newtown
County: Montgomeryshire
Year of registration: 1925
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Jones
Volume no: 11B
Page no:215

Kath. x


Braken Report 21 Feb 2012 12:36

It's a long shot but there is a John W Lloyd 1935 Newtown mothers maiden name Jones ;-)


KathleenBell Report 21 Feb 2012 11:53

There are loads of Lloyd/Jones births around that area so without knowing the first names of the half siblings it would be impossible to know which were the correct births.

You could start by looking at the ones registered in Newtown (where the first marriage took place) but it could be quite expensive as you wouldn't be certain without seeing the birth certificates to check that it was the right parents.

Kath. x


Barry Report 21 Feb 2012 10:49

My Nan was Mary Elizabeth Harris Born 1934 in Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales.

She was Annie and Richards only Daughter but as i say she has half siblings from annies first marriage to John Lloyd.


Lynski Report 20 Feb 2012 21:07

I cannot find any children from the second marriage (Annie would have been 43 years old).

Do you have any more information about this?

When was your nan, Mary born?

Which marriage would have had the half siblings?

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