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Elsa Charlotte Albertine HESS -Weisbaden

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Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jan 2013 23:23

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1316989

Flip

Flip Report 28 Mar 2012 21:04

Well there's a marriage registered and the spouse is Elsa C A Sprenger, but no mention of Hess in the index. Without the certificate how can you know it is her? As you say, the marriage was registered Wiesbaden 1928, page 262 (according to this site) on the GRO Army record index.

Not sure how you go about getting a copy of the certificate, but the GRO website should have the details. Think you may need this for further details on her ancestry and proof she is the same person.

You say both your grandparents died in tragic circumstances, have you tried newspaper archives for reports on their deaths or an obituary?

Penny

Penny Report 28 Mar 2012 14:15

Why didn't you say they married in Germany?

So how do you know Elsa was that woman?How do you know he wasn't married to someone else and Elsa wasn't his second marriage?

You said she left Weisbaden in 1904, you didn't mention she went back again! lol!


Anjella

Anjella Report 28 Mar 2012 09:33

Hello
marriage in 1928
as per another site, I was given this information by a lady who looked up this marriage for me .
This is what she sent me quite a few weeks ago.

Name: LEVITT, William E
Place : Wiesbaden
Country: Germany
Year: 1928
Page: 252
Spouse's last name: Sprenger
Record source: GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)
angie

Anjella

Anjella Report 28 Mar 2012 09:24

Hello all
Kingsmill, Birth cert 1896 William E Livett or Levitt is correct
and Elsa C A Hess 1894 as per birth cert. and the document from the Antwerp Police dept when that family left Weisbaden.

I will try Friends Reunited as you suggest Patchem but not too hopeful as they are so old now.
angie

Flip

Flip Report 27 Mar 2012 20:11

If you have her marriage certificate, is her name stated as "Elsa Sprenger, formerly Hess" or is it "Elsa Sprenger-Hess" (hyphenated)? The reason for the question is that a number of European states name their children with the convention: Christian name/Fathers surname- Mothers surname.

In which country were they married and what was her marital status at the time?

KINGSMILL

KINGSMILL Report 27 Mar 2012 07:52

(married in 1928 to William Levitt from Hull in the UK where she lived till her death) WHERE MARRIED ............abroad ? BELGIUM as FLIP posted ?

Can we have some details ??

(she emigrated from Weisbaden with her sister Louise and father in 1904)
Wiesbaden is a city in southwest Germany and the capital of the federal state of Hesse


TO WHERE ?

KINGSMILL

KINGSMILL Report 27 Mar 2012 07:42

Births Mar 1896
Livett William Elijah Hull 9d 276

BIRTH AS LIVETT in indexes

does OP have the death certificates cos this birth does not tie in with the age of 52 in 1945

Above in on another GR family tree


patchem

patchem Report 27 Mar 2012 07:08

If you want to find out about their life here and as 'James attended Ainthorp High School in Hull. ' have you looked for any of his contemporaries on Friendsreunited from that school? (Though they would be 82 now....)

Penny

Penny Report 27 Mar 2012 06:56

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FreeBMD-Admins/2012-01/1326619426

Just for ref -

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Mar 2012 22:44

WHICH marriage cert?

I have twice advised Anjella to use the 'add your reply' box - I don't know why she can't see it!

We can't help if our questions don't get properly answered.

Lynski

Lynski Report 26 Mar 2012 21:23

PM from Anjella -

Elsa HESS at birth then married I think to Sprenger which is on her marriage cert and then married my grandfather William Levitt.

I have told poster to reply on here.

Penny

Penny Report 26 Mar 2012 15:12

Yes Reggie, know, it was just re-affirming that it was the right birth and really suggesting to the poster that we need to know where the former name comes in, who/what is SPRENGER - And how have they come about the name,

Penny

Penny Report 26 Mar 2012 15:10

William Elijah Levitt, born in 1896 Hull,

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Mar 2012 15:06

The birth info was posted yesterday

Penny

Penny Report 26 Mar 2012 14:19

Births Dec 1930
Levitt Daniel Caplan Liverpool 8b 393
Levitt Gordon Wintersgill Chester-le-S. 10a 889
Levitt James Wilcock Huddersfield 9a 341
Levitt James W Hess Sculcoates 9d 258 <<<<

So Just to re-affirm, thats where HESS comes in as MMN
so its just the 'Sprenger' bit we need help with

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Mar 2012 10:08

If these are their deaths, they were registered separately

Deaths Sep 1945 (>99%)
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Levitt Elsa C 50 Hull 9d 135
Levitt William E 52 Hull 9d 246

What name is represented by the 'E' in William's entry?

What military records are you looking for?

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Mar 2012 10:04

PM received

Have told Anjella I've copied it, and also advised her to respond on here

James William LEVITT was the only child of William and Elsa - they died tragically together in 1945.
James was my father and he passed away in similar circumstances as his parents sadly.
I would like very much to find out something about them and their lives in Hull UK as from about 1930 (james birth till their deaths in 1945).
I am stuck as I can't acccess the Military records until I can get into Melbourne city.
anyway - thanks for your assistance. I am going to Hull next year and could research some things about them.
James attended Ainthorp High School in Hull.

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Mar 2012 09:49

Anjella

You say this woman 'married' William Levitt - have you any proof of the event? It can't be found on freebmd, so where do you think the event occurred?

Is the 1930 birth that of your father?

If so - you need the cert to find out if she gave any name other than Hess, which would help your quest.


If the info is accurate, Hess was her birth name, so why do you have her in your GR tree as Sprenger?

Flip has given you info about their entry into Belgium- have you followed that up?

There is no record of them that I can see in the 1911 England & Wales census records.

When was William born? When did he die?

PLEASE respond on HERE....do not click on my name. Thank you

Flip

Flip Report 25 Mar 2012 18:45

Have sent PM to Anjella advising of how to come back to her threads as she is a new member.