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Simpson family Watford Herts

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VivienneGE

VivienneGE Report 29 Jul 2012 23:39

Trying to locate Beryl Simpson (may not have been her birth name), who grew up with Dorothy Simpson in Watford/Croxley Green area. Her DOB approx 1945. Dorothy (died 1981) and her sister Ginny (schoolteacher) never married and lived together. Raised Beryl who was possibly the child of their younger brother Horace. Beryl and I played together as kids. Would love to find her. Any info. on the Simpsons greatly appreciated.

Petef

Petef Report 30 Jul 2012 07:54

Hi,

Not a great deal of info to go on as you're not sure of the surname. All I can think of at the moment is to apply for a copy of Dorothy's Will, costs £6 now, in the hope she may have mentioned Beryl? then you would have Beryl's surname and address. Or............ you could buy a copy of Dorothy's death certificate to see name and address of person who registered her death? it might have been Beryl?
I haven't yet found a birth for 'Ginny' but there is a Dorothy Ada Pateman born Royston 1894 with a Horace Pateman born Royston 1898. but I have not proved they are the family you are looking for.
Good luck with your search,
Peter

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 12:56

Dorothy never married either???


Could this be her death reg
Name: Dorothy Ada Simpson
Birth Date: 29 Nov 1893
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1981
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 0789

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 12:59

her birth which would have been reg early Jan

Name: Dorothy Ada Simpson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1894
Registration district: Brighton
Inferred County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 201

You have six weeks to reg a birth

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 13:01

1911 census now in herts
ame: Dorothy Ada Simpson
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Bushey
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 10 High Street, Bushey, Herts
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Calender Hand
Registration district: Watford
Registration District Number: 140
Sub-registration district: Bushey
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 7695
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hempson Simpson 42
Caroline Simpson 48
Albert Henry Simpson 18
Dorothy Ada Simpson 17
Jessie Florence Simpson 14
Genevieve Alma Simpson 13
William Herbert Simpson 11
Ernest Hempson Simpson 9
Horace Lionel Simpson 7
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 7695; Schedule Number: 5.


Ginny is most likely Genevieve Alma

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 13:02

Name: Genevieve Alma Simpson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1898
Registration district: Brighton
Inferred County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 190

Name: Genevieve Alma Simpson
Birth Date: 2 Jan 1898
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1981
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: St Albans
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 0603


maybe the informant was Beryl

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 13:08

Name: Horace Lionel Simpson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1903
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 775

cant see a marriage for him

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 13:11

Name: Horace Lionel Simpson
Birth Date: 6 Nov 1903
Date of Registration: Sep 1991
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 22
Page: 224


so outlived his sisters

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 13:17

Name: Ernest Hempson Simpson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1901
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 744

maybe
Name: Ernest H Simpson
Spouse Surname: Baker
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1936
Registration district: Windsor
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 1578
Find Spouse: Hilda M Baker


Name: Ernest H Simpson
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1968
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 4b
Page: 280

Name: Hilda Mabel Simpson
Birth Date: 6 Apr 1912
Date of Registration: Dec 1995
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Barnet
Inferred County: Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Register Number: B49D
District and Subdistrict: 2191B
Entry number: 122




not making any connections to Beryl as yet

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 13:23

Name: Jessie Florence Simpson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1896
Registration district: Brighton
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 206

she died a young woman ,very sad.

Name: Jessie F Simpson
Birth Date: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916
Age at Death: 19
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 926

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 13:27

Name: Albert Henry Simpson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1892
Registration district: Brighton
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 187

Name: Albert H Simpson
Spouse Surname: Challenger
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1281
spouse Victoria Challenger


Name: Albert H Simpson
Birth Date: abt 1893
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1922
Age at Death: 29
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 662


so couldnt be closely connected to Beryl

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 13:35

Name: Henry H Simpson
Birth Date: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1941
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 2501

1901 census
Name: Henry H Simpson
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline Simpson
Father's Name: John Hempson Simpson
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Mary
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:14 Carey Place

Occupation: Professor of music

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 213
Piece: 1318
Folio: 65
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry H Simpson 32
Caroline Simpson 38
Albert H Simpson 8
Dorothy A Simpson 7
Jessie F Simpson 4
Genevieve A Simpson 3
William H Simpson 1
John Hempson Simpson 76

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1318; Folio: 65; Page: 32.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 13:37

Name: Caroline Simpson
Birth Date: abt 1863
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1918
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 1686

VivienneGE

VivienneGE Report 30 Jul 2012 16:33

Oh My Word. Thank you. Yes this is indeed the family. Some of this I had but some I did not have but it all fits together. I did find a son for Horace, born in Bath, but this was Horace's second marriage (maybe there was no first - just family thought they were married) The son was not interested in the family and did not know about Beryl. Cannot find anyone left alive who knew them or anything about them. I have learned that they did live in Croxley Green. Dorothy, known as Dolly, had a family bible. Would love to know where it went too. Really appreciate all the help. Many many thanks. I now live in USA although grew up in Bushey.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 16:42

did you find his Horace,s marriage from which he had the son. The cert should show if he was a widower on marriage

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 16:43

glad to have been able to help :-D

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2012 16:44

Wonder if its worth getting one of the death certs for the sisters to see who the informant was.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Jul 2012 10:00

Which school did Beryl attend?

Have you looked for her on Friends Reunited, which is school-based?

When did you last see her?

Have you looked for a possible birth for her?

VivienneGE

VivienneGE Report 31 Jul 2012 18:28

Thanks again for all the helpful suggestions. Dorothy's nephew Lionel, son of her brother Albert, gave info as to her death but Lionel died in 2001 I found he married Frances Page but cannot find any children for them. They left the Watford area as he died in Leicester. I will try checking Friends Reunited again. Nothing on a birth under Simpson. Have not seen her since early '50's.