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Southerns & also Kiffins

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Geoffrey Leonard

Geoffrey Leonard Report 21 Aug 2012 17:59

My name is Geoff Thompson and am looking for relatives that descended through the:
1) The Southern name principally living in Aston Birmingham-during the 19th century & into the 1960s till the clearances & re-housing occurred.
Southern is the maiden name of my grandmother Elsie Southern (B 1888 D 1887) who married William Henry Cartwright 1910.D 1951,
Elsie was the youngest child of 7 known children of Joseph Southern & Charlotte Egington who married in 1873.
Their children were John B 1975 D in the 1960/70s,Christopher B 1878, Cornelious B 1880, Bertrum B 1882, Charlotte B 1884, Edward B 1886, & Elsie B 1888.
By the way John Southern was noted for carrying a spanish onion in his pocket & from time to time taking it out & eating it like an apple.
Some of these Southerns also married & had children in the early to middle 2oth century. but have lost track.

2) In 1890 my great grandmother Charlotte Southern became a widow at age 34 & remarried 1892 a John Kiffin they had a daughter Beatrice known by me as Aunt Beattie.
Are there any Southern & Kiffin people building their trees that maybe linked?


brummiejan Report 21 Aug 2012 18:05

Welcome to the boards Geoffrey.
First thing to do is check for these people on other members' trees.
Use 'search all trees' which is found in search box above right.
You can then contact any matching members by clicking on their name.

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 21 Aug 2012 19:41

Blimey Jan, what did you say lol, never seen you post anything other than a helpful hint, to search trees for instance to see if there are members who have the same names in their trees?


patchem Report 21 Aug 2012 20:59

When did Elsie die, as you have stated
'Elsie Southern (B 1888 D 1887) who married William Henry Cartwright 1910.D 1951,'
And what does 1910 refer to?
Marriages Dec 1909
CARTWRIGHT William Henry Aston 6d 426
SOUTHERN Elsie Aston 6d 426

For ref:
1911 England Census
John Kiffin Age in 1911: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Street Address: 57 New John Street
Marital Status: Married Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385 Sub-registration district: Duddeston ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Piece: 18247
John Kiffin 47
Charlotte Kiffin 54
Christopher Southern 31
Cornelius Southern 29
Beatrice Kiffin 16
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 18247; ; .


brummiejan Report 21 Aug 2012 22:20

Um, RR, as far as I recall I gave the usual advice about searching trees. How bizarre!
Maybe it was the bad language ...

Geoffrey Leonard

Geoffrey Leonard Report 22 Aug 2012 17:07

Thanks to all those who replied...sorry I posted the message when a bit tired without my notes...Elsie's marriage was as stated Dec 1909 not the 1910 I erroneously stated..Basically I was hoping a Southern or Kiffin person was compiling a tree & my message would attract luck so far
Geoff Thompson


Penny Report 22 Aug 2012 17:20

if you click the search tab, you can search for either surname. If anyone else is searching, you can message them


Reggie Report 23 Aug 2012 13:04

The odds of anyone connected just happening to see your post must be millions to one

Follow the very good advice about using 'search trees'

Be pro-active.

Also, use freebmd to track covers up to around 1950