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John NUTTMAN (1818-1879) Whitechapel

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merrygoon

merrygoon Report 29 Oct 2012 15:47

I have been searching for descendants fo John Nuttman and his wife (Sydney Ellen GRAINGER - earlier married to John PARKS). My grandmother was born in 1875, just one year before the death of her mother and 4 years before that of her father. She was brought up by her Aunt (Eliza NUTTMAN) and Uncle (Richard ROBINS).
She had 3 sisters and a brother, none of whom can I trace on the 1891 Census:
Eleanor Alice - 1864-? (who married Charles Julyan LEWIS, was widowed and may have married again)
Elizabeth Caroline - 1866-1943? (Or did she marry William FARQUHAR in 1917?)
Amy Mary - 1869-1872
and John Sidney - 1871-1872
My grandmother moved up to Ilkley, in Yorkshire, sometime befor the 1901 Census and changed her name to Sarah Nuttman NORTH - it took evidence on the 1911 Census to confirm this - and married Charles MOON.
I would love to know if I still have any livng relatives from this line of the family as until the release or the 1911 Census data I had always assumed my grandmother was a single child from Yorkshire - I now find she was born in Chamber Street in Whitechapel, presumably prior to the arrival of the intruding railway line.
Contact me at merrygoon@o2.co.uk
Gerry MOON

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 17:41

Gerry You should remove your email address as its against the T&C,s of the site to post it . The site is an open site so anything posted on it can be found by Google.

Any replies will be posted on here or can be sent to you via the site PM messaging

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 17:43

To see if anyone has the same family click on Search Trees and put some names and birth years in . You can then contact anyone that has the family by clicking on the contact box

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 17:47

presume you have this

Name: Sarah Nuttman
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitechapel, London, England
Civil parish: Whitechapel St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:9 Mountford Street

Occupation:domestic servant

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Whitechapel Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 281
Folio: 20
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Robins 60
Eliza Robins 67
Eliza Robins 25
Sarah Nuttman 16

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 281; Folio: 20; Page: 5; GSU roll: 6095391

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 17:50

1881 England Census about Sarah Mettman
Name: Sarah Mettman
[Sarah Nuttman]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Whitechapel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Mountford St
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Whitechapel Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 445
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Robins 50
Eliza Robins 56
Joseph Robins 18
Eliza Robins 16
Sarah Mettman 6

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 445; Folio: 10; Page: 14; GSU roll: 1341097.


alteration was done in 2011 notation is :-

Sarah Nuttman rather than Sarah Mettman
Sarah was the daughter of Eliza's brother, John Nuttman
Submitted by HeatherEm99 on 21/05/2011

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 17:54

correction done by the same subscriber on Ancestry if you have subs then its worth contacting the person
1881 England Census about Amy Mathuan
Name: Amy Mathuan
[Amy Nuttman]
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Sister in Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 40 Bellhavon St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Tie Maker
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 418
Folio: 72
Page Number: 100
Household Members:
Name Age
William Priestly 43 occ bus driver
Elizabeth Priestly 29 wife
Amy Priestly 2
Amy Mathuan 26

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 418; Folio: 72; Page: 100; GSU roll: 1341090.



So looks like her sister Elizabeth married William Priestley

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 18:03

1891 census
Name: Elizabeth Priestley
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Priestley
Gender: Female
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:44 Medway road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 310
Folio: 67
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William Priestley 55occ coachman /groom b bermondsey
Elizabeth Priestley 39
Amy Priestley 11b Mile End

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 310; Folio: 67; Page: 10; GSU roll: 6095420.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 18:07

so its a different Elizabeth born 1852 not this one born 1866

Births Dec 1866
Nuttman Elizabeth C Whitechapel 1c 388


is it the same family ? strange that Amy is with them in 1881 and shown as SIL but born 1855

Births Mar 1855
Nuttman Amy W Ham 4a 5

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 18:13

1871 census

Name: Amy Nuttman
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Elizabeth Nuttman
Gender: Female
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Stratford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 181
Piece: 1624
Folio: 130
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Nuttman 48
Alfred Nuttman 17
Elizabeth Nuttman 13
Amy Nuttman 16
Jim Nuttman 11

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1624; Folio: 130; Page: 35; GSU roll: 829931.



so looks like its a different family but with same names

merrygoon

merrygoon Report 21 Jul 2014 17:18

Shirley - Many thanks for all the information. Although I have most of this I am still unable to find any reference to either of Sarah's siblings in the 1881 Census. I would love to state that the Eleanor Alice that married Charles Julyan LEWIS is my great Aunt but I cannot find the link between 1871 and their marriage. Does anyone else out there have any ideas as to where to look???
Amy NUTTMAN born c 1855 at Stratford was my second cousin twice removed, as was your Elizabeth PRIESTLEY (nee Elizabeth Maria NUTTMAN). They were sisters.

Mary

Mary Report 21 Jul 2014 18:15

1891 Walthomstow D30>16 No 7 West Erskine Road.
Charles J Lewis 26 married clerk in Stock exchange
ELEANOR A Lewis 26 married!! actually not until 1894.

1881 Goodmans Field Whitchapel D11 > 8
St Marks Vicarage
Eleanor A Nutteness (Nuttman) on original born @ 1865 Domestic Servant.

Maryb.

merrygoon

merrygoon Report 10 Aug 2014 13:12

Wow!
Can I thank you all for the information you have provided.

For Shirley :-
I had all the information relating to my grandmother, Sarah Nuttman, although I still have no idea as to why she changed her name to Sarah Nuttman NORTH when she moved up to Yorkshire (or indeed why she moved up there - other than for work)
Amy Mathuen (Nuttman), born 1855, was in fact my 2nd cousin 2x removed, daughter of Thomas Frost Nuttman.
Elizabeth Nuttman, who married William Priestley, was indeed her sister

For Mary :-
My great Aunt Eleanor A Nuttman married Charles Julyan Lewis
I am delighted to have traced Eleanor on the 1881 Census

Once again many thanks