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Rose

yes i will do that thanx told you i was quite new to this... didnt think of that thankyou

Vena,

Chances are her daughter registered her death. If you order the death certificate, you will get her name and address.

Rose

i really have no idaea, i know i met vena in the early 70s and she used to write to me, i remember her address well, my parents told me she had a daughter named susan , all of a sudden my letters were returned no explanation
i seem to have hit a brick wall

Where did the information about the daughter being Susan come from?
The only birth would be with Thorpe as Thorp, and a long time after that marriage.
Births Sep 1948
Smith Susan Thorp Staincross
Do you think Vena/Vera actually married, or just took another name, and do you think the daughter was born before or after this marriage or living together?
Thanks

Added:
Is the death that I posted correct, as you had not mentioned a change of Vena to Vera?

thankyou so much i think her daughter was named susan.. is ancstry a site like this , i am new to it all, i have managed to find an awful lot and thanks for your help once again
:-D

Maybe a family member was the informant

Just putting the death, for reference:
Vera Elizabeth Smith
Birth Date: 19 Mar 1911
Date of Registration: Mar 1998
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Register Number: D43E
District and Subdistrict: 3931D
Entry number: 160

She died as Smith but Ancestry has her name as Vera.

Whitwell Local History Group have a John Smith also in her grave.

This could be the marriage?

Marriages Dec 1935
Smith John H Thorpe Barnet 3a 1475
Thorpe Vera E Smith Barnet 3a 1475

Rose

Have you got the death certificate for name of informant - who could be the daughter?

What was her surname at death

yes i did actually find her death where she remained in whitwell...
i do know that she had a daughter but i have searched the marriage records for vena and cannot find a marriage .. to search for the surname of the child im at a brick wall thankyou so much for your reply

Have you looked for marriages on free bmd?
Do you know if she stayed in this country?

Births Jun 1911
Thorpe Vena E Worksop 7b 61

Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
STEEPLES Lily Chesterfield 7b 1420
THORPE James Alfred Chesterfield 7b 1420

1911 census -

THORPE, James Alfred Head Married M 26 1885 Coal Miner Hewer Yorks Thorpe Saloin
THORPE, Lily Wife Married2 years F 24 1887 Derbys Hartsey
THORPE, William Alec Son M 1 1910 Derbys Whitwell
THORPE, Vena Elizabeth Daughter F 0 1911 Derbys Whitwell
STEEPLES, Lizzie Visitor Single F 16 1895 Derbys Danesmoor

RG number: RG14
Piece: 20270
Reference: RG14PN20270 RG78PN1214 RD427 SD4 ED12 SN221
Registration District: Worksop
Sub District: Carburton
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: Whitwell
Address: 1 Duchess St Whitwell Mansfield
County: Nottinghamshire

2 children born, both living

Possible 10 other children on FreeBMD -

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

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hi im looking for any living relatives or information of a vena nee thorpe from whitwell in derbyshire, she was born 1911