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Hi all
I am trying to find anyone who's great grandmother was Eliza Emily Buckhurst , who married William Moloney/Maloney on 15/01/1883 Christ Church, Camberwell , after William died, she re-married in 02/04/1902 at St Philip the Apostle, Camberwell to a Harry Lewis,on the 1911 census a ..Joseph Walter Lewis born 1896 was living with them not sure if hes just Harry son or could possibly be Eliza Emily's, he died in WW1.

The next family is her Daughter Eliza Mary Edith, who married first a Robert Swain, on 10/11/1901 at St Bartholomew, Camberwell, and had four children by him one son and three daughters, one of Roberts, daughters was called Eliza Alice Mary who married a Sidney Fullerton in 1930 in Camberwell this Eliza was living at 20 Ruby Street, Old Kent Road, in the 1937 Electoral Registers, as well as Eliza and James Hale

When Robert died she married James Alexander Hale, in 1934
So if there is any family from the three Eliza's please get in touch


Marj Morley

Have you looked to see if anyone has any of these people in their trees?

Unlikely in the extreme that anyone connected will just happen to see your post

Look in search trees for links on GR

Research the line(s), using freebmd etc.

With no birth year info provided, this is speculation


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Eliza A Fullerton
Birth Date: abt 1905
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1948
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1194

One child of the Fullerton/Swain marriage on freebmd..............find it, and follow-through

The marriage years are of no real use when searching for info.

We need BIRTH year info

If this is the right person, she was born before her mother married for the first time

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Eliza Mary E Hale
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1881
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1974
Age at Death: 92
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5e
Page: 59

Actually, as your post suggests that you have access to either Ancestry or FMP.........I'll leave you to do your own searching

Thanks for your help Reggie

Sorry not replied before but been away for a few days, and I had not notice that Eliza Mary was born in 1881 and it was before her parents were married, and to be honest I think Eliza Emily Moloney nee Buckhurst was a bit of a gal as a son and daughter who she has put down as father William Moloney was born after he died

The Eliza you have put in your post dated 8 Nov could well be her as I went to stay at 20 Ruby Street when I was 11 yrs old and it was with my great Aunt Eliza

Jax
And as for looking at others trees I have sent out many posts, and people do not reply, this does make me mad as we all should help each other, if i get a post I always reply even if they are not connected to my tree

But thanks for you help both of you

Marj

When you have sent messages to people............have they been opened?

Most people with trees on here are no longer active on the site, and many have changed their e-mail addresses, so will not receive notification

You still haven't provided birth year info..............not sure how you think we can search for these people without it

For INFO

1911 census

Person: SWAIN, Eliza Address: 20 Ruby ST
Cost


SWAIN, Robert Head Married M 42 1869 General Labourer Camberwell London VIEW
SWAIN, Eliza Wife Married9 years F 29 1882 Greenwich Kent VIEW
SWAIN, Robert Son M 8 1903 Camberwell London VIEW
SWAIN, Eliza Daughter F 6 1905 Camberwell London VIEW
SWAIN, Sarah Daughter F 4 1907 Camberwell London VIEW
SWAIN, Henrietta Daughter F 2 1909 Camberwell London VIEW
MOLONEY, William Brother In Law Single M 28 1883 General Labourer Greenwich Kent VIEW

Confirms the death I posted

From freebmd, which you could have found.........

Births Jun 1908 (>99%)
SWAIN Henrietta Harriet M Camberwell 1d 910

Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)
Gray Alfred E J Swain Deptford 1d 2329
Swain Henrietta H M Gray Deptford 1d 2329


Now look for children

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Henrietta Harriet M Gray
Birth Date: 30 Apr 1908
Date of Registration: Oct 1995
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Register Number: D11A
District and Subdistrict: 2511D
Entry number: 14


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Alfred Edward J Gray
Birth Date: 28 Jun 1905
Date of Registration: Apr 2001
Age at Death: 95
Registration district: Amber Valley
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Register Number: B8C
District and Subdistrict: 3921B
Entry number: 223

"re-married in 02/04/1902 at St Philip the Apostle, Camberwell to a Harry Lewis,on the 1911 census a ..Joseph Walter Lewis born 1896 was living with them not sure if hes just Harry son or could possibly be Eliza Emily's, he died in WW1. "

WHEN did Moloney die?

Have you looked at 1901 census for the lad?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Eliza E Moloney
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 39
Spouse Name: Harry Lewis*****************Bachelor
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Apr 1902
Parish: Camberwell St Philip the Apostle
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Buckhurst
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Lewis
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses: Eliza Swain and one whose name is virtually illegible, but could be R Brown

1891 England Census about Harry Lewis
Name: Harry Lewis
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Lewis
Mother's name: Sarah A Lewis
Gender: Male
Where born: W Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil parish: Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Katharines
Town: Rotherhithe
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 385
Folio: 82
Page Number: 68
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Lewis 53
Sarah A Lewis 52
Thos G Lewis 20
Harry Lewis 17
Willm Lewis 14

1901 England Census about Eliza E Moloney
Name: Eliza E Moloney
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, London, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 522
Folio: 16
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza E Moloney 38
Eliza Moloney 19
William G Moloney 19
Henry R Moloney 16
Elizabeth Moloney 15
Thomas Moloney 12
Martha Moloney 11

Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%)
Swain Sarah R E 12 Camberwell 1d 1795
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Robert William George Swain
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 22 Apr 1903
Father's Name: Robert Swain
Mother's name: Eliza Swain
Parish or Poor Law Union: Camberwell St Bartholomew
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

Name: Robert W G Swain
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1914
Age at Death: 11
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1081

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Martha Maloney
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Benjamin Joseph Harris
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1913
Parish: South Bermondsey St Augustine
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Maloney
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Charles Harris
Register Type: Parish Register


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Benjamin J Harris
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1963
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Bermondsey
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 228

MALONEY, WILLIAM GEORGE ANTHONY

Rank: Private
Service No: L/7068
Date of Death: 26/07/1915
Age: 32
Regiment/Service:
The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment)

1st Bn.
Grave Reference
IV. D. 31.
Cemetery
BETHUNE TOWN CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Mrs. E. Lewis, of 5, Galleywall Rd. Rotherhithe, London.