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my great grandparents of gladys jean elms

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Roxanne

Roxanne Report 16 Nov 2012 17:04

hi i been trying to look for my nan gladys side of the family but just keep going round in circles all i know is
gladys jean elms was born 29th june 1925 st olaves bermondsey she married my grandad george charles white not sure what year, she has got sisters but i only know one of there names which is rene elms and she married a man with the last name mcginley can anyone help please

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:21

her birth should be on FreeBMD and her marriage too

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:22

her birth
Name: Gladys J Elms
Mother's Maiden Surname: Fry
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Registration district: St Olave
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 181

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:24

she was Irene !!

Births Mar 1927 )
Elms Irene M Fry St.Olave 1d 170

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:27

You need to get one of the birth certs for the parents names .

Its possible the mum had been married before and was widowed in WW1 so wouldnt marry as Fry

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:32

have you the birth cert of one of Gladys and Charles children ?

not seeing and Elms / White marriage so wonder if she had married twice

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:34

Marriages Mar 1951
ELMS Irene M McGINLEY Bromley 5b 362

spouse McGINLEY John

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:36

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Irene May McGinley
Name: Irene May McGinley
Birth Date: 11 Feb 1927
Date of Registration: Apr 2004
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Register Number: C90A
District and Subdistrict: 242/1C
Entry number: 167

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:46

maybe
Name: Gladys J Elms
Spouse Surname: Fitzgerald
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1944
Registration district: Woolwich
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1440
Find Spouse:Albert Fitzgerald

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:47

???
Marriages Sep 1958
FITZGERALD Gladys J WHITE Sidcup 5b 1719
WHITE George C FITZGERALD Sidcup 5b 1719

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2012 17:50

maybe

Name: Gladys Joan White
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1925
Date of Registration: Sep 1997
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Bexley
Inferred County: Kent
Register Number: A28A
District and Subdistrict: 2201A
Entry number: 201

Roxanne

Roxanne Report 17 Nov 2012 10:27

thank you very much for all your help, yes the surname fitzgerald is bugging me as my aunt susan who died aged four her last name was fitzgerald changed to white and im not sure why, blimey my nan had to have a confusing family xx

Roxanne

Roxanne Report 17 Nov 2012 10:30

hello shirley my dad neil charles white is gladys and george's child along with ian, dawny and paul, but im really confused about this fitzgerald i asked my dad about it but he doesn't know anything about his mums side of the family and he never knew his nan and grandads name as they always used to just call them nanny elms and grandad elms xxx

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Nov 2012 10:36

If that is the right marriage of 1958 then the marriage cert will give you her dads name and her marital status on marriage .ie a widow maybe

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Nov 2012 10:38

maybe Susan was a child of the Fitzgerald marriage . do you have her approx birth year ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Nov 2012 10:42

This her??
Name: Susan A Fitzgerald
Mother's Maiden Surname: Elms
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1950
Registration district: Woolwich
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: 1034


Could be

Name: Susan A White
Birth Date: abt 1951
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Age at Death: 3
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1317


maybe she was the child of George but would be reg as Fitzgerald as that was her mums surname at the time

Roxanne

Roxanne Report 17 Nov 2012 10:54

it the first one hun susan a fitzgerald as her birth date was 1950 and it was in woolwich and she died 1954 in woolwich too, 1958 is about the time my nan and grandad would have got married yes thats correct, ive tried looking for the fitzgerald i clicked on it but not giving me no name of the man that my nan may have married before my grandad xx

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Nov 2012 17:00

I gave you the marriage!!

copied from above!!

Name: Gladys J Elms
Spouse Surname: Fitzgerald
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1944
Registration district: Woolwich
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1440
Find Spouse:Albert Fitzgerald

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Nov 2012 19:16

Try https://www.deceasedonline.com for some of the burials - the image will probably show who arranged the burial/cremation, and likely be to be a relative.

eg free result for Irene gives

McGinley, Irene May
CrematedOn:
28 Apr 2004
Recorded at:
Eltham Crematorium (Greenwich)
Date of death
12 Apr 2004

White, Gladys Joan
CrematedOn:
06 Oct 1997
Recorded at:
Eltham Crematorium (Greenwich)
Date of death
23 Sep 1997

Credits to view the cremation register image are cheaper then buying the DC.

Lynski

Lynski Report 19 Nov 2012 02:16

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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1314457