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frederick samuel james

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natasha Report 11 Dec 2012 21:09

im looking for any living relatives for frederick s james or his wife beatrice evelyn james formenly hill both from birmingham, frederick was born 1906 and beatrice was born 1908, frederick had an adopted sister dorothy james there parents ere fredrick a james and marion pickard, anyone connected to either of these plz get in touch many thx natasha


patchem Report 11 Dec 2012 21:21

Did Frederick and Beatrice have any children, and, if so, where and when were they born?
Have you looked to see if anyone on here have them in their trees?
When was Dorothy born, and where?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Dec 2012 21:22

Chances of anyone picking this up is probably small.

Your best bet it to look on Search Trees to see if anyone is researching the same family. You can them make contact them by clicking on the Find Out More link


patchem Report 11 Dec 2012 21:25

Is this his death:
Frederick Samuel James
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1906
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1972
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 1586


Lynski Report 11 Dec 2012 22:28

Have you tried Search All Trees under the Search button above?

You can put the names of the family in and see if anyone else has them.

If you find a possible match you can contact the tree owner to see if you have a connection.

I would suggest that you delete the automatic message about looking at their tree. Most members will not open their trees to you until a connection has been established so just type your own message about who you think you may have in common.


natasha Report 11 Dec 2012 22:29

hi yes they had a son albert george james who was my father he was born birmingham 1934 - 2003 as far as im aware he was an only child. however i know very little about him, this is why im finding it difficult to find out much, i have looked though some hot matches but have come to dead ends.
dorothy i think was born birmingham as well in 1909 but i cannot find a birth or anything about her, i have tried the birmingham archives which again have come to nothing. i would appeciate any help anyone could give me! many thx tasha


patchem Report 11 Dec 2012 23:00

1911 England Census
Friderick A James Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Husband Gender: Male Birth Place: Bradford, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 7/37 Grosvenor St West
Marital Status: Married Occupation: Polisher Middleters Registration district: Birmingham Registration District Number: 384 Sub-registration district: Lady Woon
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 17991
Friderick A James 30
Marian James 28
Frederick S James 4
Alice F Bumford 34 boarder
Dolly James 25 NO 2
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 17991; ; .

Have you got Frederick's birth certificate?


natasha Report 11 Dec 2012 23:31

i have got frederick s james birth and frederick a james birth, and i have this census but where do i go from here.


Reggie Report 11 Dec 2012 23:42

This is actually a duplicate post.....for which NO blame can be apportioned to Natasha.


Reggie Report 11 Dec 2012 23:44

Frederick's sister?

Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
James Marian Pickard Birmingham 6d 64


Reggie Report 11 Dec 2012 23:47

Marriages Mar 1932 (>99%)

Hill Beatrice James Birmingham N. 6d 611
James Frederick S Hill Birmingham N. 6d 611


natasha Report 11 Dec 2012 23:53

i was just merely asking where can i go from there, fredericks sister dorothy james i can find nothing at all on, not even a birth so i assume she was born under a different name as the adoption records didnt start till the 1920s. marian pickard is frederick s james s mother .


Reggie Report 11 Dec 2012 23:56

On 1911 census, two children have been born during the marriage, of whom one has died.

Clearly, the transcribed age of 25 is incorrect for Dolly, although the info is as per the image, which is a bit of a muddle.

You won't be able to find her birth, as you have no way of knowing what her birth name might have been.


Reggie Report 11 Dec 2012 23:58

You could try researching the sister MARIAN whose birth I gave you..............


Reggie Report 11 Dec 2012 23:59

BTW.....Dolly was more commonly a diminutive of DORIS


natasha Report 12 Dec 2012 00:02

thats what i have found confusing because of her parents ages, i do think the 2 as been crossed out but like u say its all a bit of a muddle.
i will try looking though the tree matches and fingers crossed something will come up many thx for all your help tasha


natasha Report 12 Dec 2012 00:05

i first got the name dorothy off frederick samuel james s marriage certificate, its signed dorothy james.


Reggie Report 12 Dec 2012 10:12

In that case, one must assume Dorothy to be her correct forename at the time.

Looking once again at the 1911 image, I would venture to suggest that her age is 2...........the '5' appears to have been scribbled through

If she married, it would have to have been after 1932.........have you tried looking for such an event for her?

And please try looking for info about the (apparently) natural sister.............


natasha Report 12 Dec 2012 21:34

for the child who died,? ihave looked for a marriage and got a couple of possibitiles thx again for your help tasha


Reggie Report 12 Dec 2012 21:39

No, Natasha, no-one would advise you to research a dead child...........

Please absorb ALL the info is for your benefit.